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    Hi all,
    When I am wiring an anderson plug to the rear of my Prado do both the positive and negative leads go from plug to aux battery or is the negative lead grounded to the chassis at the rear of the vehicle and what fuse or breaker would be best suited.
    Cheers Ray :?
    Prado GXL D4D '08, 6 speed, ARB bar, warn 9000 winch, IPF 9000xs lights,dual battery set up, safari snorkel, bfg all terrains, icom uhf radio,ultimate suspension 2" lift kit, rhino rack and basket, tow bar, Customline 4WD camper. And a growing wish list.

  • #2
    Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

    -ve and +ve all the way from the battery, I use a maxifuse
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    • #3
      Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

      Take them both back to the battery posts.

      Circuit breaker will depend on what size cable you intend using and what accessories you intend to use or are you simply going to use it to connect up to another battery in a trailer?

      Generally a 20 amp will suffice. I have this and it will run most things that I need.
      Dave
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      Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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      • #4
        Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

        I will be running 6b&s cable, the anderson plug is primarily there to charge my camper battery but it may come into some good use one day for something else
        Prado GXL D4D '08, 6 speed, ARB bar, warn 9000 winch, IPF 9000xs lights,dual battery set up, safari snorkel, bfg all terrains, icom uhf radio,ultimate suspension 2" lift kit, rhino rack and basket, tow bar, Customline 4WD camper. And a growing wish list.

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        • #5
          Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

          The anderson plug is rated at 50A and you may find sometime in the future you want to run something off there that uses it all ! (eg one of the bigger aircompressors can easilt draw 40 A) So I would put something like a 60-80A circuit breaker in to protect it. It is no use putting a smaller fuse in as they are not designed to have continious current through them up near their rating. i.e. if you were drawing 28A through a 30A fuse for a long period of time it would blow or even if it didn't then you would get a reasonable voltage drop across it which you don't want.
          cheers

          Tim
          December 2007 Prado GXL diesel, Option Pack with traction control, rear airconditioning and curtain airbags. Lovells Springs and Bilstiens shocks, snorkel, front recovery points,
          ARB Bar with fog lights, ARB second battery system, sandgrabber mats, Pirelli ATR Tyres,

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          • #6
            Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

            Fuses / Circuit Breakers (CBs), are used to protect cabling only (this includes connectors) not the equipment, If you don't protect the cable and you have a fault either equipment or cable damage causing a short, the cable can catch on fire. The fuse needs to be rated to suit the cable, so with you running 6B&S I would be happy to run the 50A though it, so either a 50A fuse or CB (60A seems to be a common CB this should be fine). I prefer CBs as they react quicker, and are easy to reset.

            Matt
            2003 Prado Grande TD Auto Pearl White

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            • #7
              Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

              Hi RAY
              I run two 40 amp circuit breakers
              1/ one circuit breakery is close to main battery [car]as posible
              2/ the other is close to the battery in the van
              this gives the best protection to the wire cable
              in both direction.[only if charging a battery in trailer or van]
              eg if dead short and only one circuit breaker in car blows
              the second battery feeds the power to the short
              hope this helps
              cheers Geoff

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              • #8
                Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                35mm andersons are rated to 50 amp.

                as mentioned before, minimum 6mm twin core should be used, and anything larger than 8mm twin core has trouble fitting into the anderson plug lugs.

                i fill the lugs with molten solder and then push the exposed wire in and let cool. this means no crimping, and i haven't had any pull apart yet, and i've tried.

                also use 50amp circuit breakers (auto resetting). use one as close to the main battery as possible, and one in the camper/van before the respective aux battery to be charged.

                also, i would be putting in a start protection circuit, depending on what isolator is used for the vehicles dual battery system. the ARB smart solenoid is wired into the start signal switch to link both main and aux batteries when starting/cranking. The Piranha DBE180S unit also does this if fitted correctly.

                with the start circuit wired in, the is a good chance that the AUX battery may be low, and draw current (when starting/cranking) from whatever battery is linked via the anderson plug. this is not good.

                run two relays in place and one of which should be a 40-50amp changeover relay. the changeover relay will be connected, until it's powered up, and then it will disconnect. this is inline behind the circuit breaker near the Aux battery in the engine bay.

                the changeover relay is then switched/powered by a normal 40amp relay, which is switched/ powered by the same signal wire as that of the start signal on the isolator.

                i hope you can understand what i've just typed out. i'm not very good at written explainations.
                SIK-120
                2008 Toyota Prado 120
                ...with a few bits and pieces on it...

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                • #9
                  Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                  Hi Ray, the diagram below will give you a fairly good idea of what you need and where to locate everything.

                  With is 6B&S ( 13.5mm2 ) your planning on using will easily meet your needs.

                  This size cable has a continuos current rate of 90 amps so it should be protected with nothing bigger than a 50 amp fuse or circuit breaker.

                  Automotive fuses and circuit breakers is specifically designed to tolerate 135% of their marked current rate for up to 30 minutes so if you use a 50 amp fuse or circuit breaker, they will allow up to 67.5 amps for 30 minutes and even higher currents for shorter periods of time.

                  So it’s imperative for safety reasons, no to exceed 50 amps, and 50 amp auto resetting circuit breakers will give you the best and simplest protection in a dual battery set up.

                  Like fuses and circuit breakers, 50 amp Anderson plugs can tolerate higher currents for short periods of time so again a 50 amp fuse or circuit breaker will give you safe protection.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                    Originally posted by 8608
                    the ARB smart solenoid is wired into the start signal switch to link both main and aux batteries when starting/cranking.
                    I don't think so
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                    • #11
                      Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                      Originally posted by D4D
                      Originally posted by 8608
                      the ARB smart solenoid is wired into the start signal switch to link both main and aux batteries when starting/cranking.
                      I don't think so
                      i don't want to get too much off topic, but can i ask why?

                      if the 1314 if fitted as per (ARB) instructions, the signal should be the start/crank wire.
                      SIK-120
                      2008 Toyota Prado 120
                      ...with a few bits and pieces on it...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                        Thanks all for your thoughts, theres some interesting ideas on the topic, I am thinking that I will run both positive and negative cables from Anderson plug to battery (positive via 50 amp breaker), am considering running the 6b&s alongside or through the chassis rail housed inside split conduit, or is it better to run the cable on the inside of the vehicle as I have previously done when adding a 12 volt socket to the rear for my fridge or for that matter whether I would have enough room to run the cables this way? I am thinking to connect the 6b&s to the aux battery also, I feel this way it is better if in an emergency the aux battery drained flat and also I wouldn't need to add another solenoid :?
                        Cheers Ray
                        Prado GXL D4D '08, 6 speed, ARB bar, warn 9000 winch, IPF 9000xs lights,dual battery set up, safari snorkel, bfg all terrains, icom uhf radio,ultimate suspension 2" lift kit, rhino rack and basket, tow bar, Customline 4WD camper. And a growing wish list.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                          Hi Ray, in the diagram above, just substitute any decent isolator for the SC80 and you only need one isolator.

                          The primary job of any isolator is to protect the cranking battery and everything connected after the isolator can be on the same circuit. Just make sure you protect everything with the correct fuses and/or circuit breakers.

                          As to running cable to the rear, while it’s usually a bigger job, it’s far safer to run the cable inside the vehicle, along side the existing vehicle wiring looms and if you plan on doing any off roading, then it’s much, MUCH safer to run the cable inside.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                            OK, If I am wiring an Anderson plug to the rear, with the hope of charging a third battery, do I run the -ve and +ve BOTH back to aux battery or do I connect the +ve to my isolator?
                            I have 30amp circuit breakers, one at each end, is that enough? I ran the 6B&S yesterday, but will not be terminating the wiring until tomorrow (when I can borrow the crimpers from work).

                            Also, what have others used to mount a power pole in the rear? I have run three 6B&S to the rear, two for Anderson, the third is for power distribution to other bits. What I have planned so far is, crimp the 6B&S and mount it to a 30amp circuit breaker and then plug all other wires to the AUX side of the breaker. I have a 4 pole fuse block, which should be enough to get me started. Again, is this sufficient?

                            As always, thank you in advance.
                            D4D Prado GXL - 2014. 2" OME lift, ARB Deluxe Winch bar, ARB under body protection plates, ARB EZ Deflator, Weaco fridge, Matsen fridge on slide, BFG A/T's, ARB CKMA12 compressor, Oztrail side awning with LED lights PLUS canvas extension, Lightforce XGT's.. Oricom UHF380, GME AE4017

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                            • #15
                              Re: Wiring an Anderson Plug

                              Originally posted by MDSimpson
                              OK, If I am wiring an Anderson plug to the rear, with the hope of charging a third battery, do I run the -ve and +ve BOTH back to aux battery or do I connect the +ve to my isolator?
                              Mine goes back to the aux battery, -ve and +ve
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