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  • #16
    Originally posted by Chippy
    Originally posted by Crammy
    Forgot to ask... Did you have to disconnect the rear pan hard rod?
    When I did my own suspension install ... with far fewer helping hands ... I disconnected the panhard and the sway bar ends .... which gave me a lot more room to move.

    Last night ... with the extra helping hands .... it wasn't necessary.

    Cheers
    Chippy
    Thanks for the info chippy.

    So how did fishnut like the new ride? I bet he loves it!
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    • #17
      well done lads another quality write up and pictures...

      i will certainly be thinking about doing mods with mates as a option now...

      this sort of stuff makes prado point such a pleasure to be part of...

      well done cheers ....joey.
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      • #18
        Great job indeed ! I'm used to doing almost everything on my own and its great fun.

        BTW, which is the model of your Bilstein's? I can read F4-BE5-A... but no more.

        Another question about the steering arm: you say "...With the nut still on ... tap it through and pop the ball joint knuckle off" Mines were too hard to remove like this. Did you tap on the nut with a soft hammer or so?

        Cheers,

        JordiGPS
        Spain

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        • #19
          G'day Jordi

          There's a couple of ways of doing this.

          The first is with a "puller" tool that clamps on, winds up and pushes the bolt end back through the seat ..... we didn't have one.

          The other one is to undo the castleated nut but leave it on the end of the thread. Then tap on the top of the nut with a hammer ... I used a 2.5 lb steel hammer. The idea is to not damage the threads. They may require a little more ooomph to get them moving .... but I haven't found one yet that doesn't move

          Cheers
          Chippy

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          • #20
            NONONO. Dont hit the thread. Loosen the nut then with a decent hammer hit on the side of the steering knuckle itself where the tie-rod end pushes in. Because of the taper of the two parts the jarring effect will soon see the tie-rod drop out of the knuckle. It just needs good sharp raps without trying to physically change the shape of it. :wink:

            Matt

            If this doesn't make sense let me know and I'll try and draw a diagram. TRY! :lol:

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            • #21
              See ... learn something new every day

              Gotta love this forum.

              Cheers
              Chippy

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MattWhite
                NONONO. Dont hit the thread. Loosen the nut then with a decent hammer hit on the side of the steering knuckle itself where the tie-rod end pushes in. Because of the taper of the two parts the jarring effect will soon see the tie-rod drop out of the knuckle. It just needs good sharp raps without trying to physically change the shape of it. :wink:

                Matt

                If this doesn't make sense let me know and I'll try and draw a diagram. TRY! :lol:
                Or even better you hit it with 2 hammers, one on each side at the same time. (That is why there is a flat on both sides....) That way you are not putting any force where it is not meant to go
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                • #23
                  Another great social get-together, oh and suspension upgrade.

                  A huge thanks to Matt (who came straight from work...to work) for all the mechanical skullduggery, Leachy (and Jen) for a workspace, bbq, tools etc, and Chippy and Jay for help, tools, photos etc. And, everyone for the great company.

                  I had a great time, and I am no longer a suspension virgin - learnt a lot. I also learnt where the HP sprayer doesn't reach - thanks for the photographic proof Chippy!

                  Wheel alignment was way out, but fixed on Saturday morning.

                  The verdict?
                  after 1 day on the blacktop, and a couple of kerbs for testing

                  Sits higher , gives a slightly firmer ride, pulls up out of bounces earlier. Overall it is a vast improvement. Although I can notice the firmer ride, it is just as comfortable and I just love the fact that it feels strong rather than bouncy.

                  Road handling, I actually think has improved. I think the sponginess in cornering has been eliminated and although the centre of gravity is now higher, the body roll feels less. On sudden braking (like when that moron in the Nissan sportscar cut in front and then stopped on the red :evil: ) the front end stays up rather than feeling like a nose-dive. Guess the opposite might be true when planting the boot taking off from the lights, but I drive the old diesel, so... guess I'll just have to imagine :lol:

                  I notice the noise a bit more, but it might just be that I am paying more attention. It's bugger all but I just think the firmer springs transmit a bit more through from the road. And I can hear the wind getting up under the wheel arches, but I like that 8) - reminds me that I'm sitting higher up

                  I'm sure things will change in the coming weeks as it settles in, but I love it.

                  And, importantly, the better half is very happy with the extra inches.......


                  Chippy, you forgot the first thing on the next-to-do list: tyres!
                  and Matt, the snorkel will come after that.

                  I'm doing a bit of photo-shopping and will post some before and afters soon along with some measurements.

                  Thanks again guys! No, really - thank you!

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                  • #24
                    Fishnut - pleasure, any time, nuf said!

                    Bitdist - completely true but lack of room and working on the floor ruled the situation. I think the boys vouch for there being no permanent damage to any parts. :wink:

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                    • #25
                      Measurements (from lower edge of rim):

                      Front Passenger:
                      751mm before, 800mm after (+49mm)

                      Rear Passenger:
                      779mm before, 821mm after (+42mm)

                      Tow hitch receiver (lowest point of bodywork):
                      400mm before, 466mm after (+66mm)!!!


                      right then, onto photgraphs, complete with theodolite rule just because...

                      First photograph is always before upgrade.
                      Rule has 50mm increments and green marker indicates 'before' position.

                      What a beautiful car!!! even has the sun bling off the back quarter panel .



                      (maker indicates inside of wheel arch before)






                      (maker indicates bottom of bullbar before)



                      (maker indicates bottom of bumper before)

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                      • #26
                        Gees Fishnut .... if that was white it would be one sexy looking rig.

                        Looks pretty good in maroon too. :lol: :lol: :lol:

                        Cheers
                        Chippy

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MUMSRIG
                          Ahhh, kept that one in the bag didn't you FISHNUT :wink:
                          err, I thought everyone knew I was getting new suspension and billies/lovells at that??? :?

                          I crowed about it like and excited kid at christmas here http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic....r=asc&start=15


                          Originally posted by JordiGPS
                          BTW, which is the model of your Bilstein's? I can read F4-BE5-A... but no more.
                          Jordi, they are BE5-A712 and BE5-A713.

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                          • #28
                            I love the last two where it goes from seeing nothing underneath to seeing the lower control arms! Love it. Now to try it out! :lol:

                            Matt

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                            • #29
                              Awesome write up guys...
                              Special thanks chippy for the torque specs.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MattWhite
                                Now to try it out! :lol:
                                You betchya! When? Oh this weekend, right. Can't wait. The maroon marauder is no longer the grader for the rest of you.

                                The poor furkids have to think twice before jumping up and down into the back now, but it easier for them to crawl underneath for some shade when we are out :lol:

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