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  • #16
    Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

    I dont really get it - Why only Soverign bars on prado's?. No matter what type of bar is on the vehicle (ARB, TJM etc), wouldn't they use the same mounting points?. All Prado's with a bar should get a recall.
    just my thoughts.
    Graeme K
    Politicians And Nappies Should Be Changed Often - And For The Same Reason.

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    • #17
      Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

      Yes, all bull bars mount on to the front of the chassis, with some form of steel bracket connecting the chassis to the bar. However the steel brackets (or crush cans) that Toyota used for the Sovereign bar which fit between the chassis and the alloy bar are thin, poorly made and will crack along the fold lines if the Prado is driven over a lot of corrugations. When the cracks start, the bull bar moves around a little more. Worse the cracks get, the more the bar shakes around. Eventually it will fall right off!
      No surprise that I was told by the dealer a year ago that the company that made the Sovereign bars is no longer in business. Wonder why?
      Cheers
      White 2012 GXL 150 TD Auto. Work in progress. Aiming to spend less than when I kitted out the 120!

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      • #18
        Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

        And that is exactly where mine cracked, Hullbyw, on CSR corrugations. Neil

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        • #19
          Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

          mmmmm - I wonder how much pressure are on these brackets (crush cans) when useing a winch mounted to a sovereign bar??
          Potential failure point?? (especially if some cracking is evident :!: :!: )
          :shock: :shock:

          Graeme K
          Politicians And Nappies Should Be Changed Often - And For The Same Reason.

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          • #20
            Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

            Phoned the dealer where i bought mine to ask about the recall of sovereign bull bars .

            They said it was not a general recall but it would be inspected if there was a problem being experienced.

            Next time its in for service will get them to check it out.

            Pedro
            Pedro

            2007 D4D Auto

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            • #21
              Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

              Mine is booked in to be done on Monday week at Stewart Toyota in Sydney. The service bloke says they have the parts and all Sovereign bars on Prados and Toyota steel bars on Hiluxes are to be done.I showed them the cracked one I took off a few months ago and the bloke said the new ones are of thicker metal. We shall see in a week. Neil.

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              • #22
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                Mine is booked in to have this recall job on the 16th of Nov.
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                • #23
                  Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                  I called into my local dealer here in Tasmania and asked about the recall. They were quite surprised :roll: that I knew about it as the letters had not been sent out yet. Just told them I have friends 8) who are in the know. Once again Pradopoint is ahead of the dealers here.

                  I asked would I be getting a letter and after confirming the VIN number was told I would be so will book it in very soon. I will be asking for the old ones so I can see the difference and keep as spares in case ,
                  [B]Tasmania 2015 GTG Committee Member[/B] 2005 Prado Pilbara, Sovereign Bar, Driver & passenger weathershields, UHF TX3220, Spare wheel spaces, Lifestyle rack, Genuine front & midrow seatcovers, Genuine front & midrow rubber floor mats, ARB 47 litre fridge/freezer, Hilux washer jets, BF Goodridge A/T, Radiator protection plate, Dual battery tray and isolator, ARB 2.5m awning, Rhino heavy duty areo bars, MSA rear wheel bin, MAXTRAX

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                    Picked up my new crush cans, plus new angle iron style braces (to replace the weak round tube ones) a big bag of nuts and bolts, new air bag compliance sticker and instructions from local Toyota dealer this afternoon (service guy could not have been more helpfull - very impressed) . My sovereign bar was removed from the Prado some months ago when I decided that the welded up crush cans were not going to survive our planned outback trips this year, so that is why I picked the parts up rather than having them installed. The new parts will go with the bar when I sell it
                    The difference is huge. The steel is about twice as thick and the folds have been replaced by large radius bends. If I had of known Toyota were going to bring these parts out I wouldn't have changed the bar over to the ARB Deluxe.
                    If any PPointers do any offroad work at all I would strongly recommend that you request that the dealer replaces your old Sovereign mounts with these new ones. Just hope the poor bloke that left his Sovereign bar on a dune near Big Red after it fell right off will be able to claim something from Toyota.Reckon they should install a whole new bar for free.
                    Maybe after all the recalls Toyota has had worldwide, they might be starting to listen to their customers. Never know, they may even start to talk about cracked dashboards!(the service guy did ask whether I had complained to Toyota about the Sovereign mounts but alas I had not. I just got pee'd off and bought a second hand ARB Deluxe instead)
                    Cheers....Wayne
                    White 2012 GXL 150 TD Auto. Work in progress. Aiming to spend less than when I kitted out the 120!

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                    • #25
                      Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                      My 07 GX went in for some other reasons and when i went to pick up the car it wasnt ready. Basiclly they are replacing the mounts to stronger mounts and braces. It dosn't matter its still a s--t bar and shakes just as much. Save up some money and put something decent looking on ARB TJM Opp Lock. CAN'T WAIT :roll: I am the second owner and if i hadn't taken the girl cruiser in for other reasons i would be none the wiser. I must say the dealer was great and couldnt do enough for me Noel Barr Toyota Thanks Jay!
                      2007 KDJ 120 GX, auto, ARB deluxe winch bar, ARB rear air locker, ARB on board air, ARB roof rack, Q-MAC hf90 HF radio, Cibie Oscar's retro fitted
                      35w HID driving lights, GME3200 UHF, cargo barrier, Redarc smart soleniod, Piranha batt. tray, Exide 115ah Marine batt for aux., 265/70R17 (32") tyres on std 7.5"steel rims, Customised rear draw system with pull out table,

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                      • #26
                        Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                        MWB50, you may well be disappointed if you do save up some money and put a different bar on. As mentioned on PP many times, the shaking is not so much the bar but the soft body mounts to the chassis. So part of the shaking you see is the body moving in relation to the chassis. However all my 4wd mates agree that my Prado now looks way tougher with the ARB Deluxe bar than it ever did with the Sovereign bar and as the CB antenna is now mounted low rather than on the top bar it oscillates a little less on the corrugations.
                        Cheers
                        White 2012 GXL 150 TD Auto. Work in progress. Aiming to spend less than when I kitted out the 120!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                          Thanks hulbyw I can understand the soft body mounts giving the illusion of the bar shaking more, but i am looking beyound that. I have already lost one s/steel whip antenna on my first trip north. I have now fitted a fibreglass whip and as it is a lot stiffer the whole loaded base vibrates much less and actually moves as one instead of moving like a hoola dancer. Another reason for fitting a after market bar such as ARB is it provides much better protection for those vunerable and expensive aluminium radiators. Those lower front stone guard would help too act as an effective brace and every bit helps, also when entering wash outs etc the better ramp angle would be of a huge advantage. As this vehicle is a whole lot lower than my old 80 (which is still parked in my garage I cant bare to part with it ) every little bit helps. Cheers Blacky
                          2007 KDJ 120 GX, auto, ARB deluxe winch bar, ARB rear air locker, ARB on board air, ARB roof rack, Q-MAC hf90 HF radio, Cibie Oscar's retro fitted
                          35w HID driving lights, GME3200 UHF, cargo barrier, Redarc smart soleniod, Piranha batt. tray, Exide 115ah Marine batt for aux., 265/70R17 (32") tyres on std 7.5"steel rims, Customised rear draw system with pull out table,

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                          • #28
                            Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                            let keep this topic about the sovereign bar CSE.
                            there are other topics about BB discusions
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                            • #29
                              Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                              just a thought...if i have my antena mounted on the bar and the cable does not de-attach itself from the antena how are they gonna take the bar off to fit these new mounts?? take off the whole antena completely?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sovereign Bar Mount Recall?

                                Originally posted by pjorek
                                just a thought...if i have my antena mounted on the bar and the cable does not de-attach itself from the antena how are they gonna take the bar off to fit these new mounts?? take off the whole antena completely?
                                I will be removing mine before the Toyota monkeys touch my car for the repair....

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