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  • #31
    I think I remember reading some where that he was heading off (Moreton Island - ?) with the family for a few days...... I'm sure he'll give it a good test
    [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
    [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
    [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
    [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
    [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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    • #32
      All good guys, been taking some photos and testing to continue at Moreton Island. Will get it up there Sunday night. Just been busy with work start of this week.
      And no accidents just had the car getting the side bars installed and they were going to re paint the front bar where some paint had come off.
      [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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      • #33
        Good to hear it mate got any first impressions?

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        • #34
          Whoooaaaa.

          It totally changes the drivability of the D4D on P2 (ultra Sports mode)!!!!!

          So my vehicle has no chip and is essentially standard at the moment, I was running a cheaper Ebay chip for awhile and had this set on moderate setting. I noticed a difference when I removed it from the vehicle. With the chip it seemed to have more low down Torque and acceleration. But I am looking at installing a known brand chip next year so removed the one I had.

          I installed the throttle controller into the 150, straight away I went for P2 (Ultra sports mode) and took it for a drive, and it's like driving a totally different car. The Prado becomes extremely responsive especially when taking off at the lights. I also did a quick test in park where I increased the revs to around 1100 RPM at Normal Mode (Stock Mode) and then switched the throttle controller over to P2(Ultra sports mode) at full setting and the revs climbed to between 1400RPM and 1500RPM. I will plug the scanguage in and do some further testing on this with exact figures.

          On Eco mode (Economical) the vehicle becomes even more sluggish at take off and you have to push the pedal a fair way in but this mode when travelling on the highway would be okay as I was running through some 80 zones on Eco and found this quite an easy drive.

          The P1 setting is essentially somewhere between Normal Mode and the P2.

          I am heading to Moreton Island for the weekend and will do some testing driving through the sand tracks and compare the same tracks in different modes. At this stage I am impressed with the results you get with the simple press of a button and the fact that the setting can be returned to normal mode so easily. The only downside's if you can call them that is that in P2 when your get that harder acceleration, when you come off the pedal it is an increased deceleration as well so the pedal only needs a minor change in movement to either increase or decrease so for some it may not be as smooth a drive. The other thing is the use of fuel, With my small amount of driving with this I am yet to see any fuel difference but will be interesting to see what it changes over a tank compared to what I use now. I really don't think there will be a great difference as I know when I want to go faster I accelerate harder so essentially the booster does it for me without having to push the pedal in further.

          I have also tested the throttle controller with cruise control and have not found any adverse conditions. The vehicle seems to maintain the selected speed. I will be doing some more testing on this today and tomorrow.

          Paul
          [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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          • #35
            Good review mate, glad you like it, looking forward to hearing how it went in the sand etc on the trip.

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            • #36
              Any ideas on price yet ?

              Cheers Derek
              Blue Storm 150 GXL 4D4 PRADO and 2014 Cub Brumby Camper My rig build [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?25698-Derek11-s-2012-Blue-Storm-150-GXL-build-up[/url]

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              • #37
                Hurry up Paul and give me a run of it !!

                Keen to compare a manual D4D 150 against the Auto you have.

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                My 4WD Action write up 2004 120 V6 Prado - [URL]http://www.4wdaction.com.au/articles/2012/complete-package[/URL][/SIZE][/CENTER]
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                • #38
                  These will retail for $299 but I will do them for pp members at $250

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Matt - mr4x4 View Post
                    Hurry up Paul and give me a run of it !!

                    Keen to compare a manual D4D 150 against the Auto you have.

                    I think I heard Glenn telling me to keep it and keep testing it!
                    [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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                    • #40
                      Okay,

                      It's time to put up some photos and a bit of extra information. Firstly I'd like to thank Glenn from 4WD Supplies for the opportunity to test this bit of kit.

                      Firstly it arrived well packaged and ready to go.



                      After unpacking the unit it came with some limited instructions, 2 cable ties, the inline plug and cabling. I was impressed with the build as it looks reasonably well constructed and the plastic was not a cheap brittle plastic that tends to come out of China. It felt more like a poly plastic.



                      The Control unit is quite small and would be easy to find a position to mount this within easy access. For the purpose of not ruining the self adhesive pad on the back I just placed it above the steering wheel.



                      From the unit there is a thin cable that runs out the left side of the controller and has plenty of cable to reach the accellerator pedal. at the end of the cable is an inline plug.

                      Last edited by Brains; 13-11-2012, 09:40 PM.
                      [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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                      • #41
                        Okay so outside I went and installed the Throttle Controller into the Prado. Firstly you just have to reach under the dash and above the accelerator you'll find the electronic accelerator cable and plug.



                        Simply remove this plug and plug it into the Wind Booster Inline Plug and then plug the inline plug into the accelerator.



                        Once the unit is plugged in it is good to go, you just have to mount the Controller somewhere handy where you have instant access to change the settings when required.
                        [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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                        • #42
                          Now going back to my initially response to my reaction to the wind booster where I said I would plug in the Scanguage and take some readings well here they are;

                          Firstly with the Controller selecting Normal Mode which is stock mode I placed a block under the accelerator so I could only depress it so far. I turned off the AC. I then applied the accelerator and took a photo of the RPM shown on the Scanguage.



                          I then changed the mode to Economy (similar RPM shown but this mode really comes into play when you are sitting at a constant speed with little acceleration required)



                          P1 (A minimal increase in power at lower acceleration)



                          And P2 (my favourite) As can be seen a much higher RPM at the same depth of pedal press as the above.



                          Essentially with further testing and running this device in the vehicle my findings were exactly the same as my initial findings in post #34 (http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post377353) of this thread.

                          The P2 mode makes the car a much more responsive vehicle with instantaneous acceleration straight away when the accelerator is depressed. There is the ability to fine tune the exact P2 setting as there are 10 increments that you can set the throttle controller to.

                          The P1 mode for me didn't offer a great deal of noticable difference between stock and P1, but when changing back you could feel that there was something there but obviously nothing like the P2 mode.

                          As mentioned Eco mode is great when travelling at a constant speed for a longer period when little acceleration is required.

                          To put it simply the Wind Booster Throttle Controller allows you to modify the sensitivity of the accelerator to suit the driving conditions required by the driver.

                          I spent the weekend on Moreton Island and while I kept it on P1 most of the time driving around the Island I did have a bit of a play on a couple of sections of track. I found that with P2 acceleration was responsive but at times when driving through the bumpy sections it was harder to maintain throttle control as there was less sensitivity with smaller movements of the accelerator. So I found that I was driving on P1 mode and then selecting P2 if required to get through some tougher sections.

                          All I can say is that it would be interesting to test this Controller with a chip to see the fullest potential from the D4D. I look forward to hearing others opinions and experiences especially those with a chip. Also if anyone has the opportunity to do some towing of a campr trailer during their trial I would also be interested. I simply ran out of time.

                          Thanks once again Glenn.

                          Paul
                          [SIZE=2]Black 2009 150 Series D4D GXL Prado, [B]TG150[/B] Transfer Case & Actuator Guard, TJM T13 bar, TJM 9.5lb Winch, Airtec Snorkel, TJM steel sidesteps and sidebars, TJM Underbody Protection, TJM XGS Gold Suspension, Tinted, ARB Fridge Freezer, Couplertec System, Foxwing Awning, 80AH Dual battery, 8" indash GPS, Wet Seat seatcovers, GME TX3540, TX3110 & TX680, [B][COLOR=#ff6633]Maxtrax[/COLOR][/B], Kaymar Dual Wheel Carrier, Breathers, Federal MT's.[/SIZE]

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                          • #43
                            Just curious here, but I gather if you were 4wdriving over a rocky/bumpy sections that u would want it set to the original setting? What I mean is the higher up the setting the more sensitive it is to "slight movements", thus potentially becoming a bit jerky when driving in bumpy/rocky tracks, if u know what I mean....... would this be correct or have I got this totally wrong ???


                            rob
                            [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
                            [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
                            [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
                            [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
                            [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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                            • #44
                              Top write up preview Paul, looks like another addition for my Prado.
                              Blue Storm 150 GXL 4D4 PRADO and 2014 Cub Brumby Camper My rig build [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?25698-Derek11-s-2012-Blue-Storm-150-GXL-build-up[/url]

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                              • #45
                                Rob, if similar to the Sprint Booster on my 120 V6, then yes I found rocky terrain is better suited to the stock setting. Throttle sensitivity is amplified in the higher settings so with your foot jiggling around already bouncing over rocky areas it makes for a bumpy ride, particularly considering most times in that situation you are in low range with increased torque on hand. A simply tap on the controller back to stock or stage 1 and all good.

                                Wouldn't be without some sort of similar throttle controller, great fun on the Prado and brings a smile on my dial even though I drive a 400kw xr6 turbo to work each day!!
                                Tony
                                2013 LC200 Sahara & 2003 GXL 4.0 v6

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