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  • What a JERK!

    It seems some eBay sellers think its ok to troll this forum and lift images to sell their products.

    The matter has been referred to my lawyers and I hope the prick get what he deserves. Certainly got my attention and I intend to let everyone know what a w4^ker he/she is.

    This is my post at number 379 http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...nde-MLC/page13

    and this is the slime bags advert:

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301476358...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    I may be overreacting, there is a slim chance they are totally different vehicles right?

    Thanks to Gramps for the heads up.

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  • #2
    Its on page 23, sorry its on 26. Thats what happens when you are rushing to get to work.

    I dont think you are overreacting, and as somebody has said below I think if you contact ebay they will remove the image
    Last edited by rogjil; 16-01-2015, 09:54 AM. Reason: Stuffed up

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    • #3
      Nice work Gramps.
      It doesn't even look the same.
      Isn't your bar one of AJ's ?


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      • #4
        I think you are over reacting. Once you post something to the Internet its pretty much out there for other people to use or abuse.

        It's a low act but unless it's copyrighted I don't think you can do much other than request the seller nicely to not use the image.

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        • #5
          Contact ebay and report them - false photo as it's not a picture of the bar they are advertising

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          • #6
            Actually as MLC has taken the image he retains copyright over it.
            I can forward you details of what the Australian professional photographers institute says you can charge him for use of your image in a commercial situation. It's in the thousand$

            I'm sure your lawyers will have fun with him.

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            • #7
              You're wasting your time with lawyers on this.

              If you're the originator of the image, its automatically your property which makes you the copyright owner. The problem here is - can you prove that? Did the ebay lister take the picture himself? Can you prove he didn't? I work in media and we face this all the time. Thats why you see whopping great watermarks all over video and still images. Its accepted that it will get lifted but at least the originator will get the credit, albeit with no payment.

              The other angle is that your rego number has been published. I'm not sure if theres anything that can be done there, as number plates are displayed for all the world to see anyway and you didn't obscure it in your original image that you posted on a public forum.

              The ebay chap has clearly used your image and vehicle for commercial purposes. Send him an invoice for that.

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              • #8
                Yeah low act but whats the point of involving lawyers, do you expect compensation? It is obviously false advertising but it doesn't really effect you badly so it could be worse.
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                • #9
                  Sik him - there's a reason he's/she's not using the images from the MCC site - coz there's a lot of them to choose from.....

                  You own copyright - send a lawyer letter and they'll probably back down.

                  Whilst its not causing you any harm - its just rude. How hard would it have been to contact you to ask your permission.
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                  • #10
                    It would be very annoying if you were the seller and were suddenly carpet bombed with low ball offers.

                    Just saying
                    ZR

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Piggy View Post
                      Actually as MLC has taken the image he retains copyright over it.
                      I can forward you details of what the Australian professional photographers institute says you can charge him for use of your image in a commercial situation. It's in the thousand$

                      I'm sure your lawyers will have fun with him.
                      Thanks Piggy. I have the original as loaded with all its meta data eg time date, camera used to take the photo, etc. The dogs have been set loose. The vehicle is out side a house, the vehicle is licensed to me, all the evidence suggests the photo was taken by me. I can prove I took the photo using the equipment identified in the meta data. I can prove where the photo was taken. The house is owned by someone I know, I wonder if he knows where that house is, the street, hell even the suburb?

                      The dogs (lawyers) are already onto it. I have learnt never to threaten anything unless you are prepared to carry it out. I put the lawyers onto it this morning at 8:30AM, exactly as I said I would. I told the seller I would do certain things by certain times and gave them opportunities to stop the course of action. They declined and decided to leave the photo up and give me a silly vanilla response.


                      Originally posted by Beach View Post
                      You're wasting your time with lawyers on this.

                      If you're the originator of the image, its automatically your property which makes you the copyright owner. The problem here is - can you prove that? Did the ebay lister take the picture himself? Can you prove he didn't? I work in media and we face this all the time. Thats why you see whopping great watermarks all over video and still images. Its accepted that it will get lifted but at least the originator will get the credit, albeit with no payment.

                      The other angle is that your rego number has been published. I'm not sure if theres anything that can be done there, as number plates are displayed for all the world to see anyway and you didn't obscure it in your original image that you posted on a public forum.

                      The ebay chap has clearly used your image and vehicle for commercial purposes. Send him an invoice for that.
                      Someone asked what I want? Nothing, just don't use the bloody photo without asking. If they asked it would have been theirs to use for free. They didn't so I now I want the picture removed or a shit load of pain for the seller.

                      For the record I didn't want an apology or anything, just remove the picture. Pretty reasonable starting point until they decided to not listen.

                      I'm sure he could have taken the picture himself. I will bet the house he cannot even identify the location of the vehicle at the time the picture was taken. For what its worth, the vehicle only looked exactly like that for a short period of time as can be proven as well.

                      Beach, don't forget a claim for all profits from any sales. My picture is obviously the reason he has sold any I have no issue with the license, The plates are unique so whatever risk they pose they also pose by me driving down the street. However the use of the photo creates an impression I endorse the bar or support the seller. These are endorsements I have not made to the seller! My opinion of the seller would not be labelled "supportive".
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Palmer View Post
                        Contact ebay and report them - false photo as it's not a picture of the bar they are advertising

                        Did that, they are not likely to do anything. Pathetic really. They are more concerned with a seller using another sellers picture, no matter where that seller got the picture from.
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                        • #13
                          He's also using another of your photos to advertise a dual bar for a 90/95 series


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BlakMoth View Post
                            Nice work Gramps.
                            It doesn't even look the same.
                            Isn't your bar one of AJ's ?


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                            It is now Gramps bar, it was my bar, my bar is now one of AJ's bar. Seems we all get barred up and then throw the keys in the bowl.... nvm.
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                            • #15
                              Don't waste your time with lawyers, that will just empty your wallet, just report the user and that item to ebay and explain the situation. Refer them to this forum as your evidence and simply request it is taken down. No need to take it any further and it won't cost you a sent.
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