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  • #16
    Yeap, know about the law about the lights, funny thing is cops and ambos have clear white lights on their roof racks too. I use to see cops all the time running around with their driving lights on to but for everyone else it's illegal.

    Laws for them laws for us...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Terry View Post
      Yeap, know about the law about the lights, funny thing is cops and ambos have clear white lights on their roof racks too. I use to see cops all the time running around with their driving lights on to but for everyone else it's illegal.

      Laws for them laws for us...
      And mobile phone usage laws don't apply to them either.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Turbo Piston View Post
        Oh nooo really?! That sucks, I want to purchase a rhino roof rack just to mount one of these LED bars! If I do it in pairs it will be ok then?
        No.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Terry View Post
          Yeap, know about the law about the lights, funny thing is cops and ambos have clear white lights on their roof racks too. I use to see cops all the time running around with their driving lights on to but for everyone else it's illegal.

          Laws for them laws for us...
          Specific legislation allows for emergency vehicles - for reasons I'm sure are obvious to most. Same as legislation exempts use of mobile phones and all other traffic offences as required in the course of their duties.

          It's not a case of one law for us and one law for them, it's only while they're on duty, which allows them to do their jobs appropriately.

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          • #20
            Afew years ago my mate and I made a visit to the police licencing branch and enquired about tha max height driving lights were allowed to be mounted and we were told 1.5mtrs max,unsure if this is still the case in WA.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Dakkas View Post
              Specific legislation allows for emergency vehicles - for reasons I'm sure are obvious to most. Same as legislation exempts use of mobile phones and all other traffic offences as required in the course of their duties.

              It's not a case of one law for us and one law for them, it's only while they're on duty, which allows them to do their jobs appropriately.
              I always found it interesting that "legislation" makes it safe for the police to run lights and siren and drive at a speed well in excess of the speed limit whilst holding a phone to their ear.

              Every police car has about $10K of hi-tech state of the art encrypted comms gear and they still need a phone "to do their job".

              I really struggle to understand that.

              And just for the record, I am not bitter and twisted because I have been caught. I haven't been stopped for anything except a not so Random Breath test which all read zero.

              S
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              • #22
                Originally posted by sweetpea View Post
                And mobile phone usage laws don't apply to them either.
                Actually, that is incorrect.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bushbasher View Post
                  Actually, that is incorrect.
                  Let me rephrase it then.

                  Mobile phone laws don't appear to apply to them either as they are often seen flagrantly in breach in Victoria.

                  S
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                  • #24
                    Back on topic please guys.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sweetpea View Post
                      I always found it interesting that "legislation" makes it safe for the police to run lights and siren and drive at a speed well in excess of the speed limit whilst holding a phone to their ear.

                      Every police car has about $10K of hi-tech state of the art encrypted comms gear and they still need a phone "to do their job".

                      I really struggle to understand that.

                      And just for the record, I am not bitter and twisted because I have been caught. I haven't been stopped for anything except a not so Random Breath test which all read zero.

                      S
                      Legislation simply allows for breaches of traffic laws - it doesn't make it safer. The risk is mitigated by having warning devices attached to vehicles (ie lights/sirens/high vis markings) - AND - driver training where the safest possible techniques are taught how to minimise the risk. Note I said minimise - the risk is still there and it is still dangerous, however police drivers are taught and drive with the attitude of community safety being paramount. Plus they have to be justified, they can't do it for Shi ts and giggles.

                      Bushbasher, police actually are exempt from mobile phone use . Refer section 300 of the Australian Road rules which specifically references hand held mobile phone use. Section 305 is also worth looking at which references the exemptions of traffic laws for emergency vehicles

                      Anyway, back on topic, the laws relating to roof lights differ significantly from state to state. If you want to know for certain speak to your local motor vehicle registry.

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                      • #26
                        I was looking at mounting some extra spotties on top of my bulbar. I already have 240 lightforce ones under the hoop so there is no other spot but on top. I researched it in SA and I could put spotlights on top as long as...
                        They were in pairs...tick
                        They were switchable with high beam and also isolated from use.....tick
                        Had to be able to fold back and have no sharp edges that could do damage to pedestrians if struck....tick
                        Mounted below the eye height of the driver while in the driving position...tick
                        Whilst the drivers seat is pushed all the way back and lowered all the way down, the driver must be able to see a continuous line across the road at 11 metres in front of the drivers eyes....???? NOPE.
                        The last one got me, so no spotlights on the bulbar. The ruling is under bonnet scoops of all things...

                        I believe it all comes down to attitude. I have had a few discussions with patrols and every time they have been understanding and willing to only re-enforce what is the law. If you are hooning or driving fast, driving where you shouldn't be, using fog lights when it is not foggy, then I'm afraid there is very little sympathy coming from me.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Dakkas View Post
                          Anyway, back on topic, the laws relating to roof lights differ significantly from state to state. If you want to know for certain speak to your local motor vehicle registry.
                          Dakkas, mate the info I've had is that the ADR 'trumps' any state based laws, meaning the state based laws cannot allow something that is restricted under an ADR. The ADR's restricts roof mounted driving lights, so I don't believe (on the info I've been told) that a state based law would allow them. Haven't yet seen any legislation that does allow them, but happy to stand corrected!
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JGD View Post
                            Dakkas, mate the info I've had is that the ADR 'trumps' any state based laws, meaning the state based laws cannot allow something that is restricted under an ADR. The ADR's restricts roof mounted driving lights, so I don't believe (on the info I've been told) that a state based law would allow them. Haven't yet seen any legislation that does allow them, but happy to stand corrected!
                            I'm not sure - the Australian Road Rules are consistent throughout Australia. However, if there is specific state legislation it will override the ARR's. I would suggest the ADR's follow the same path?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Chard View Post
                              I researched it in SA and :

                              Mounted below the eye height of the driver while in the driving position...tick
                              this is incorrect. It has to be below the centre line of the windscreen wipers ( whilst they are at rest).

                              I've gone through this with regency already.


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                              • #30
                                I think if you are driving with your roof mounted lights on, then fine, understaned. But if you are on a track, I think it is important to have as much light as possible. I think most cops won't see that as a problem. Just my thought. I am willing to risk it, or only mount it when I do serious tracks.

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