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  • #16
    Well I finely had enough and took it to Toyota $77.00 Later and half an hour problem solved. It now goes around corners like an 86. I was told they just reflash the ECU to erase the memory. Hope that's the end of it.
    2016 ISUZU DMAX TWIN CAB.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Poppy Joe View Post
      ...It now goes around corners like an 86...
      Still bad then...
      My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Poppy Joe View Post
        Well I finely had enough and took it to Toyota $77.00 Later and half an hour problem solved. It now goes around corners like an 86. I was told they just reflash the ECU to erase the memory. Hope that's the end of it.
        Good news! You must be happy!

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        • #19
          NICE!! Thanks for sharing Pappa Joe - Mine is doing the same thing after lifting so I'll try the same with Toyota.

          Cheers
          2010 GXL V6 - Point Cook, Victoria
          Gavin

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          • #20
            Cheers everyone on your thoughts. A ECU re-flash may be my next step. I'll also sus out the steering and yaw senors, if there are any, as well.
            BTW lowering the tyre pressures to 38psi did bugger all.
            Hopefully an ECU re-flash might also sort out the cruise control as well. I forgot to mention that the Cruise control always likes to back into 3rd gear at any opportunity on a slight incline. If I switch it off and go back to using the accelerator myself, the car will quite happily sit in 4th while going up a hill. Should the hill be of any real incline the car will kick back into 2nd and redline before dropping back into 3rd. All this while trying to keep 100km/h. Really annoying.

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            • #21
              Sounds almost like the set up is too stiff and not compliant enough which is putting extra load on the tyres and making them slip.
              My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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              • #22
                Did the ECU reflash fix the problem? I have the same issue on a Kakadu with Hankook tyres when I went up in sizes, no lift. Stability control kicks in on even just a slow corner. Last weekend on a moderate corner it cut in to prevent "loosing control", problem was it caused understeer putting me on the wrong side of the road into the path of oncoming traffic. The only damage as soiled underwear but I want to get it fixed. Has there been any update on the yaw sensor re-cal?

                Thanks guys.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by trowal View Post
                  Did the ECU reflash fix the problem? I have the same issue on a Kakadu with Hankook tyres when I went up in sizes, no lift. Stability control kicks in on even just a slow corner. Last weekend on a moderate corner it cut in to prevent "loosing control", problem was it caused understeer putting me on the wrong side of the road into the path of oncoming traffic. The only damage as soiled underwear but I want to get it fixed. Has there been any update on the yaw sensor re-cal?

                  Thanks guys.
                  I dont like the sound of that! The more I read about this, the more it screams software to me.
                  Getting steered into oncoming traffic makes me think you guys should go to toyota sooner rather than later!

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                  • #24
                    Up at Wonga beach were we are leaving the van and off to the top tomorrow. On the same stretch of road between Cairns and Wonga is were it first started to kick in three years ago upgrade suspension towing a 2.5 tonne van. Now another suspension upgrade and the re flash not a problem.
                    I tried to find out exactly what they did but you you would have to join the Church of Scientology or secret boys club. Not bad considering you pay for it. Still I'm happy now it's fixed.
                    2016 ISUZU DMAX TWIN CAB.

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                    • #25
                      I very much doubt that simply fitting new tyres can cause this issue...... Suspension lift etc. on the other hand for sure...

                      I have got 33" Tyres and a 3.5" lift - had the issue where VSC would engage on sweeping bends in the front wheels and also if doing a sharp u-turn or accelerating from standstill into a road (90 degree turn)

                      Took it to toyota last week - They re-cald all sensors - took them over an hour - they said they cant just do Sterring and Yaw sensor, as there is a long proceedure they needed to follow.

                      Happy to report that problem is now solved and the car is behaving itself perfectly again.

                      IMO - A good Wheel Allignment will have alot to do with it as well - so do make sure you get that done just before you take it to Toyota for the Re-Cal
                      2010 GXL V6 - Point Cook, Victoria
                      Gavin

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                      • #26
                        Hi,
                        2 words...Slow Down.
                        I have the exact same tires and almost identical suspension setup and the only thing you can do is to slow down in the corners.
                        It's not only annoying but bloody dangerous when it kicks in on a left hand corner it sends you onto the other side of the road...!
                        Turning if off is an option but slowing down helps a lot.
                        I will be changing to a more aggressive tyre shortly but it will also have a higher profile so I don't expect it to help.
                        2009 150 GXL V6 Auto. Ironman deluxe bullbar, uniden uhf, ironman awning, roof mounted solar panel, softdog suspension, adjustable upper control arms, lightforce 240 spotlights, 265/70/17 Hancook Dynapro's, Sidewinder dual battery system, Maxtrax, Engel fridge, ARB draw system, Ironman Snorkel, Roadsafe Recovery Points, 80 watt Solar Panel.
                        CUB Supavan Stockman camper.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jaymboze View Post
                          Hi,
                          2 words...Slow Down.
                          I have the exact same tires and almost identical suspension setup and the only thing you can do is to slow down in the corners.
                          It's not only annoying but bloody dangerous when it kicks in on a left hand corner it sends you onto the other side of the road...!
                          Turning if off is an option but slowing down helps a lot.
                          I will be changing to a more aggressive tyre shortly but it will also have a higher profile so I don't expect it to help.
                          Jaymboze I think your missing the point. From the discussion, it looks as if the problem lays within the cars electronic systems and has very little to do with speed. If you are experiencing similar problems then maybe you should look at a similar solution as the other have suggested, such as a having your steering sensors and ECU cleared.

                          Anyway... the car is booked into my local Toyota dealer for their (non) expert opinion and I'm sure that the smug service adviser will be most willing to appear as if he/she cares about fixing my issue.
                          I'll let y'all know of the outcome.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by blueprado150 View Post
                            Jaymboze I think your missing the point. From the discussion, it looks as if the problem lays within the cars electronic systems and has very little to do with speed. If you are experiencing similar problems then maybe you should look at a similar solution as the other have suggested, such as a having your steering sensors and ECU cleared.

                            Anyway... the car is booked into my local Toyota dealer for their (non) expert opinion and I'm sure that the smug service adviser will be most willing to appear as if he/she cares about fixing my issue.
                            I'll let y'all know of the outcome.
                            Good luck! I'm hoping to read on wednesday that they sorted it out for not alot of money!

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                            • #29
                              Hi all,
                              I was only suggesting that speed is an issue as it is in my case.
                              Not going hard into corners solves the issue.
                              Just fitted a set of 285/70/17 Hancook MT
                              Tyres.
                              Keen to see if the problem is better or worse.
                              2009 150 GXL V6 Auto. Ironman deluxe bullbar, uniden uhf, ironman awning, roof mounted solar panel, softdog suspension, adjustable upper control arms, lightforce 240 spotlights, 265/70/17 Hancook Dynapro's, Sidewinder dual battery system, Maxtrax, Engel fridge, ARB draw system, Ironman Snorkel, Roadsafe Recovery Points, 80 watt Solar Panel.
                              CUB Supavan Stockman camper.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Jaymboze View Post
                                Hi all,
                                I was only suggesting that speed is an issue as it is in my case.
                                Not going hard into corners solves the issue.
                                Just fitted a set of 285/70/17 Hancook MT
                                Tyres.
                                Keen to see if the problem is better or worse.
                                I dont think speed is the issue, that stuff should not be kicking in unless you are losing traction in one way or another, rear or front end sliding out, wheel spinning or wheels lifting. If it comes on when you go around a corner fast with none of that stuff happening then something is wrong. Looks to be proven that is a software thing.

                                Might be worth getting it looked at before you drive into oncoming traffic.

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