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    Sitting in Karratha. Toyota suspect a cracked #4 cylinder. They are going to do a compression test on Monday. I guess that will help diagnose what other damage there is.
    Just had 140k service done 3 days ago all was good. 6 months out of an extended 5 year warranty
    We are towing a caravan and were plodding along at 85-90 kmh when lost power and the engine started chugging.
    Last fuel was a fill from Shell at Karratha and we had done about 250 k on that tank full.

    Can anyone relate to me what I should expect now from Toyota?
    Costs.
    Turn around.
    I have heard that the cracking can be caused by dirty fuel or out of spec injector? Should I ensure I get a fuel analysis done. I have already emailed Shell with receipt details.
    Should all cylinders be replaced?
    Should injectors be tested or replaced? I read that in NZ each 40k the seals are checked for dripping as that can cause cylinder failure.
    In case of dispute do I pay up to local Toyota and take up the issue with Toyota?

    Thanks for any pointers.

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    Originally posted by Peter&Tracey View Post
    Sitting in Karratha. Toyota suspect a cracked #4 cylinder. They are going to do a compression test on Monday. I guess that will help diagnose what other damage there is.
    Just had 140k service done 3 days ago all was good. 6 months out of an extended 5 year warranty
    We are towing a caravan and were plodding along at 85-90 kmh when lost power and the engine started chugging.
    Last fuel was a fill from Shell at Karratha and we had done about 250 k on that tank full.

    Can anyone relate to me what I should expect now from Toyota?
    Costs.
    Turn around.
    I have heard that the cracking can be caused by dirty fuel or out of spec injector? Should I ensure I get a fuel analysis done. I have already emailed Shell with receipt details.
    Should all cylinders be replaced?
    Should injectors be tested or replaced? I read that in NZ each 40k the seals are checked for dripping as that can cause cylinder failure.
    In case of dispute do I pay up to local Toyota and take up the issue with Toyota?

    Thanks for any pointers.
    All too common, sorry to say, The usual story. The Injectors should have been changed at 120k.
    This is a story which makes all those who take my advice & changed them at 100 or 120,000k quietly sit back & realise they have done the right thing. (Unless they got a bad job - sorry ogf as an example).
    None of this helps you, because I'm not Toyota, I'm just a nobody.
    So were your Injectors checked at the last service? I think we know the answer, sorry.
    Have a google & read around, you will soon learn, this could have been prevented.

    Your best scenario is: they blame fuel, you claim insurance, accidental damage, (you don't know you put bad fuel in).
    New long motor is the only fix. Anything else will usually end up in tears later. New long motor $9000.00,
    Plus labour & fluids etc.
    I'd encourage fuel test & finding bad fuel.
    It's the injectors, not the seals in this case. Worn, right on time, overfuelling. Towing will bring it on every time.

    REMINDER:
    Diagnostic every service to be used as a guide on injector wear & problems.
    Not just feedback values.
    Change them at 120k.
    Check oil pickup every service.

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    • #3
      Thanks #### for the advise and heads up it is very much appreciated.
      You are correct there was no item on the last 140k service about inspection of injectors.
      I had an RACQ end of warranty inspection done in December and asked Toyota about the injectors. I was told there are no issues with the 150 injectors not like the 120 injectors and that there isn't anything to be done.

      I will contact the insurance brokers.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Peter&Tracey View Post
        Thanks #### for the advise and heads up it is very much appreciated.
        You are correct there was no item on the last 140k service about inspection of injectors.
        I had an RACQ end of warranty inspection done in December and asked Toyota about the injectors. I was told there are no issues with the 150 injectors not like the 120 injectors and that there isn't anything to be done.

        I will contact the insurance brokers.
        Yes that 120 vs 150 rumour is getting spread well.
        One noteable difference is the 150's you usually won't get the rattle like 120's, but they wear just the same.
        Pop the same too.

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        • #5
          The old "dirty fuel" excuse being trotted out by Toyota yet again. That's the best they can come up with because they won't admit their own failings at proper servicing requirements. Eff them all. Don't buy it. Trust me because I know all about it. 100 thousand on new motor.
          Dave
          Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
          Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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          • #6
            I know there expensive But........ Maybe 10K

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            • #7
              Heard on fb about another 150 up the Cape with cracked #3. Mux is looking better every day
              Cheers
              White 2012 GXL 150 TD Auto. Work in progress. Aiming to spend less than when I kitted out the 120!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hulbyw View Post
                Heard on fb about another 150 up the Cape with cracked #3. Mux is looking better every day
                Cheers
                MUX, go and wash your mouth out!

                120k mate you will be right.

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                • #9
                  Does the Hilux D4D suffer from all the same woes as the Prado D4D, injectors/oil pickup etc, being as I thought the same engine ?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Coolcol View Post
                    I know there expensive But........ Maybe 10K
                    That's 100,000km on my new motor silly. 100k with me servicing it properly as opposed to 73K in the hands of Mr Toyota.
                    Dave
                    Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
                    Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Anth120playdo View Post
                      MUX, go and wash your mouth out!

                      120k mate you will be right.
                      He he he!
                      White 2012 GXL 150 TD Auto. Work in progress. Aiming to spend less than when I kitted out the 120!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 5logs View Post
                        Does the Hilux D4D suffer from all the same woes as the Prado D4D, injectors/oil pickup etc, being as I thought the same engine ?
                        It is the same, same same.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Anth120playdo View Post
                          It is the same, same same.
                          A guy at work has one with 240K and it is as noisy as hell. I swore to him it had screwed injectors but he reckoned they were only 30K old. When we checked
                          Injection volume was 5.1mm3/str & worst injector = 1.8. No smoke and he says pick up clear yet very noisy compared to my prado with new injectors?
                          Any ideas as to why so noisy? Just different sound proofing?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Scruffy View Post
                            A guy at work has one with 240K and it is as noisy as hell. I swore to him it had screwed injectors but he reckoned they were only 30K old. When we checked
                            Injection volume was 5.1mm3/str & worst injector = 1.8. No smoke and he says pick up clear yet very noisy compared to my prado with new injectors?
                            Any ideas as to why so noisy? Just different sound proofing?
                            120? 150? Or Hilux?

                            Depending on what it sounds like, I supplied a set of injectors for a d.i.y last weekend, gave Him instructions & cautions. So he did the job, had a few issues, sorted that out, then he had it running & was very happy.
                            3 days later he thinks its noisy, so he brought it past yesterday, it's quiet as a mouse, everything is fine.
                            The point is, some are super quiet, some are average, some still rattle. They are diesels & do make some noise, I love when they come up silent, usually with baileys this can happen & Also with new injectors. Now in winter they do become rattly again till they are at full temp.

                            The egr is really doing damage to the engine over time, this is why it's important o do the compression test while its open. Varying compressions can cause rattles & knocks. Also Scv sticking. Low cetane fuel. Hiluxes are noisier than Prado. Contamination by who did the job, debris causing premature issues in the injector?
                            If the injectors were left too late, you can develop a crack in the piston, have a look at Mlc pictures in the other thread, also ogf has 1 too I think, one is blown, the other is started, this will not be picked up with compression test. This is why it's important to do a thorough piston inspections in some vehicles, like those that were left overdue or ad bad rattles, or had bad readings. He could have a crack? Anyway could be a number of things, probably not to worry.
                            I dug up some threads too look at & consider.

                            The main thing is, change them at 120k as preventative maintenance, even if they look to be ok, or not too bad.
                            They are worn very similar to every other vehicle I check & can tell you that's when you change them.
                            That's if they make it to 120k, which they usually do. That's where it's important to do the diagnostic every 10,000k.
                            Also servicing, regular driving & fuel quality are the other factors in how long they will last. You can get lucky.
                            You can have injector problems & rattles & diagnostic can look ok, so diagnostic is a pretty reliable guide only.

                            Hard to say without hearing it, but a few ideas.
                            Anth120playdo
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                            Last edited by Anth120playdo; 26-07-2016, 09:06 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Anth120playdo View Post
                              120? 150? Or Hilux?

                              Hiluxes are noisier than Prado.
                              Hilux!!! Injectors have been in 40K. Low EGT, good readings and no problems - just thought it sounded like a bucket of bolts compared to the 120!

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