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  1. #25
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    Well it's decision time,

    Spoke with Dobinsons Dandy, they do a kit to suit 2" lift front coils and shock, Rear airbadmam ( Dunlop bags ) and rear shocks
    ( Shocks are Remote res. mono tube ) about $2500

    ARB dealer much the same but there shock are OME. And kit cost roughly $2700 if I want BP51 +$2000

    Just need to wait for Wolf 4x4 to come online for 2017 and I can get them to Price an icon setup

    Will also contact CalOffroad when they return for 2017 would consider if I can buy off a local installer ( Vic ) after reading a few horror stories off this site I'd want point of purchase within reach
    Last edited by Phs; 09-01-2017 at 05:47 PM.

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    Loveeeee my Dobo's MRR's

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    That is good feedback,

    Anyone know what open length shock measurement is for a 2" lift on a Kakadu ?
    Given they have the automatic swaybar disconnect I'm assuming they would need longer travel than a shock suited for a GXL
    Really want to increase clearance height but also maximise the wheel travel

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    Measurements are in the suspension database
    http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...nsion-Database

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    Be cautious of 3" lift kits as in many states this will void your insurance cover in the case of an accident if an additional road worthiness certificate is not sourced. I was told this by my insurance company and many posts on this site support this view. The insurance companies and police regs will tell you that the vehicle height cannot be increased by more than 50MM = 2" without an additional road worthiness certificate. This height is calculated from the original roof height from the ground so this also includes any bigger tyres you may have fitted. On these laws, most 4x4's I see on WA roads are non-compliant which is course doesn't matter until you make an insurance claim. I checked this out with insurers and police and websites prior to insuring my 4x4 and made sure all these details were listed on the policy.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amts View Post
    Measurements are in the suspension database
    http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...nsion-Database

    Data base is great
    But It does not have the Kakadu shock nor the OME bp51
    The Kakadu rear shock part no is 4853069535
    Last edited by Phs; 12-01-2017 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pradokakadudavid View Post
    Be cautious of 3" lift kits as in many states this will void your insurance cover in the case of an accident if an additional road worthiness certificate is not sourced. I was told this by my insurance company and many posts on this site support this view. The insurance companies and police regs will tell you that the vehicle height cannot be increased by more than 50MM = 2" without an additional road worthiness certificate. This height is calculated from the original roof height from the ground so this also includes any bigger tyres you may have fitted. On these laws, most 4x4's I see on WA roads are non-compliant which is course doesn't matter until you make an insurance claim. I checked this out with insurers and police and websites prior to insuring my 4x4 and made sure all these details were listed on the policy.

    Cheers.

    David
    The rules have changed for Victorian Registered Vehicle's.

    50mm of lift and 50mm of tyres.

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    I think every one Bar QLD come under NCOP now.
    Which is total 75mm combined lift for MC classed vehicle's

    So

    50mm suspension and
    50mm larger OD

    But there is also a Rule for cars fitted with ESC.....
    no greater than 50mm lift total

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipperyskakadu View Post
    Loveeeee my Dobo's MRR's

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    http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Veh...ons.aspx#lower

    Can I raise my vehicle’s ride height?


    A vehicle's ride height can be increased in a number of ways. These include:

    • Tyre diameter increase
    • Raising a vehicle's suspension
    • Body blocks

    The limit a vehicle's ride height can be increased is dependant on which combination of the above method(s) are used. Each of the above vehicle lift methods have a maximum allowable increase they can achieve (maximum suspension lift 50mm, maximum tyre diameter increase 50mm, maximum body block lift 50mm). The maximum total combined lift of the vehicle cannot exceed 125mm.
    Please be aware the maximum allowable limits specified above are not applicable to all vehicle types.
    For further information about the limits and requirements for raising a vehicle's ride height, please refer to the Minor Modifications publication (PDF, 816 KB) and the LS section of the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (PDF, 1.93 MB).


    I have been told I can put 50mm large diameter tyres on my 4WD, they do this in other states and territories, is this permitted in Queensland?

    Yes, the following types of vehicles can have their tyre diameter increased by up to 50mm or reduced by no more than 26mm from any tyre diameter designated by the vehicle manufacturer for that vehicle:

    • 4WD passenger vehicles specifically designed for off-road use (typically MC ADR category), or
    • 4WD goods vehicles and their 2WD equivalents if the chassis and running gear are essentially the same as the 4WD versions (N ADR category)

    Please note: All wheel drive(AWD) vehicles, commonly known as soft roaders,are not to be considered as one of the above mentioned vehicles.
    Further information about fitting alternate tyres and rims, please refer to the Minor Modifications publication (PDF, 816 KB) and the LS section of the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (PDF, 1.93 MB).

    SuspensionLowering or Raising of Vehicles
    A vehicle’s suspension can be raised or lowered by 50mm without specific approval, provided:
    • at least two thirds of the original suspension travel in either direction ismaintained
    • coil springs remain in locating seats on full suspension droop
    • the normal relationship between the front and rear suspension heights isnot unduly affected
    • replacement springs have the same or greater load capacity as theoriginal springs
    • suspension coil springs are not shortened by cutting or heating
    • leaf spring suspensions are not raised by the use of extended shackles, adjustable metal plates or by placing theleaf springs to the opposite side of the axle
    • if lowering blocks are used, they are either steel or aluminium
    •the vehicle maintains a minimum running clearance of 100mm and the requirements in Australian Design Rule (ADR)43 are met*
    the suspension of a vehicle fitted with Electronic Stability Control (ESC) may be modified without certification providedit is not combined with any other lift (i.e tyre and suspension, suspension and body block, etc).
    *Generally, a vehicle which maintains a minimum clearance of 100mm between the ground and any point on the undersideof the vehicle (except a point on a tyre, wheel, wheel hub, brake backing plate or flexible mudguard or mudflap) will meetADR 43.
    For more information regarding ground clearance and running clearance please refer to the LS section of the National Codeof Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification.Page 4 of 15
    The following information provides some general guidance about raising a vehicle’s height

    A vehicle lift up to and including 75mm combining both suspension lift and tyre diameter increase (maximum suspension lift50mm, maximum tyre diameter increase 50mm) is acceptable under self-certification.

    A vehicle lift between 76mm and 125mm (inclusive) combining a suspension lift, a tyre diameter increase and a body lift(maximum suspension lift 50mm, maximum tyre diameter increase 50mm, maximum body lift 50mm) requires certificationand testing by the department’s Approved Person.
    Please Note: The above mentioned maximum tyre diameter tyre increase is for 4WD off-road vehicles. A passenger car orpassenger car derivatives must not increase their tyre diameter by more than 15mm.

    For further information please refer to the LS section of the Queensland Code of Practice – Vehicle Modifications

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    Just did a 2" lift kit from Superior in my VX. Profender remotes, Dobinson Springs and new UCAs. We are planning on a Cape trip mid year. Had a local young guy/ workshop install it and it really was a mess. Took it up to Superior who put it on the hoist and re-did my ride heights and reset the KDSS. They still want to tweak it some more but I need to find the time. So my advice is to get Superior or one of its agents to do the installation.

    Its only new but the lift is almost 3 inches at the moment. The ride is harsh and I have been playing with the shock settings and tyre air pressures to make it comfortable. The VX spends most of its time on the road day to day with no load other than maybe two passengers. It is OK when the VX is loaded. If these shocks are softened the rebound control is also softened. This means you wobble up and down and it is really uncomfortable. Probably travelled some 1000ks since the install so I am still waiting for it all to settle and I'm hoping that I find the right shock settings soon. My Missus is none too pleased.

    Im not sure if the spring rates are wrong or the shocks need some re-valving or tuning done to them. Looking at the Dobinson part numbers the fronts were I think standard, the rears +400kg.

    Superior have supplied me with heaps of gear for my Fourbys. All of it has been outstanding. They supplied me a 2" Tough Dog kit with 45mm adjustables for one of the Coil Cab Patrol utes and it is a beautiful ride. It might be going to the Cape instead of the 150 if I cant get this resolved.
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    Hey mumstruk,

    What is the valving on the Profenders? I would ask Superior for dyno data. If they can't provide this data, I'd be returning them. If the valving range is not matched to the coils in the first place, no amount of adjustment tweaking on the Profenders will change that.

    What are the part numbers on the Dobinsons coils?

    Usually it's the valving that is not well matched to the coils. No matter what your coil rates are, you can always change the valving to match them.

    I'll be interested to see what the Profender valving is like!

    Best

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