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  • Originally posted by Snouto View Post
    It’s the most likely colour I’ll be getting. Not sure why it should inadvertently affect resale, but with that being said my local dealer is selling off the older style prado and the wildfire red (also a favourite of mine) is being sold for less than the exact same vehicle in silver and grey.

    It’s a nice subtle effect on the peacock black, seems to shift from solid black through dark blue and greens depending on the light.

    Something sifferent from the depressing silver and greys and the common as much white you see everywhere.
    Yes that is the main reason I'm looking at this colour too. Silver, charcoal and white are just wayyy overdone. I currently have silver pearl so change has got to start somewhere. I notice Toyota are using peacock black on their tv ads too for the Prado.

    I know darker cars are hotter to touch in the sun but they all come with a/c 😁

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    • Originally posted by Snouto View Post
      It’s the most likely colour I’ll be getting. Not sure why it should inadvertently affect resale, but with that being said my local dealer is selling off the older style prado and the wildfire red (also a favourite of mine) is being sold for less than the exact same vehicle in silver and grey.

      It’s a nice subtle effect on the peacock black, seems to shift from solid black through dark blue and greens depending on the light.

      Something sifferent from the depressing silver and greys and the common as much white you see everywhere.
      Make sure you have a big box of tissues, because you will cry! lol......many years ago i had a Panther Black(black with green/blue metallics) Commodore.....it was a dust magnet and scratches grew before my eyes....your Peacock Black Prado will be fearful of the bush, that squealing sound you hear as the bushes kiss the duco.....i can see your eyes welling up now

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      • Originally posted by Desirable4Driving (D4D) View Post
        Yes that is the main reason I'm looking at this colour too. Silver, charcoal and white are just wayyy overdone. I currently have silver pearl so change has got to start somewhere. I notice Toyota are using peacock black on their tv ads too for the Prado.

        I know darker cars are hotter to touch in the sun but they all come with a/c ��
        Hotter on the outside maybe, but unless someone goes for the beige leather on the VX/Kakadu all of the interiors will be the same dark colour anyway.

        Plus, who goes around touching their car in the midday sun?

        Scratches, on the other hand, are a different issue and one that's not easy to dismiss.

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        • Originally posted by bigowenb View Post
          Make sure you have a big box of tissues, because you will cry! lol......many years ago i had a Panther Black(black with green/blue metallics) Commodore.....it was a dust magnet and scratches grew before my eyes....your Peacock Black Prado will be fearful of the bush, that squealing sound you hear as the bushes kiss the duco.....i can see your eyes welling up now

          Admittedly the visibility of scratches is a bit of a concern. Not too worried about the dirt since I'll be cleaning it regularly anyway, but seeing scratches everywhere will quickly become annoying. Makes you wonder why 4 of the 7 colours they offer on the Prado are all dark if it's such a big issue though.

          Perhaps they're trying to tell us something with the new "Dusty Bronze" colour...

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          • Originally posted by Snouto View Post
            Hotter on the outside maybe, but unless someone goes for the beige leather on the VX/Kakadu all of the interiors will be the same dark colour anyway.

            Plus, who goes around touching their car in the midday sun?

            Scratches, on the other hand, are a different issue and one that's not easy to dismiss.
            The issue is not 'touching their car'. The heat absorbed into the dark car is massive compared to a light coloured car. Touching the various colours gives you an indication of the issue, but like many, they either don't realise or don't care. Every kw of heat absorbed into the vehicle has to be removed to give comfort level for the occupants. More kw of a/c etc. I'm happy for you to choose a dark coloured car, but would prefer you to understand the heat absorption rather to be unaware.
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            • Prado paint is If much better quality then Commodore. Any metal storm prado owners out there to share there experience?

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              • Originally posted by photoprado View Post
                The issue is not 'touching their car'. The heat absorbed into the dark car is massive compared to a light coloured car. Touching the various colours gives you an indication of the issue, but like many, they either don't realise or don't care. Every kw of heat absorbed into the vehicle has to be removed to give comfort level for the occupants. More kw of a/c etc. I'm happy for you to choose a dark coloured car, but would prefer you to understand the heat absorption rather to be unaware.
                Always happy to hear the experiences of others better placed than I. Thinking about it, all of my cars have always been light coloured. I've never actually had a dark coloured car so I'm completely inexperienced in the matter.

                Truth be told I'm already considering a different colour. The dusty bronze looks interesting and - at least - different from the usual suspects.

                Cheers.

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                • Originally posted by Snouto View Post
                  Always happy to hear the experiences of others better placed than I. Thinking about it, all of my cars have always been light coloured. I've never actually had a dark coloured car so I'm completely inexperienced in the matter.

                  Truth be told I'm already considering a different colour. The dusty bronze looks interesting and - at least - different from the usual suspects.

                  Cheers.
                  To late for me because i'm picking up the Crystal Pearl Kakadu on Thursday but geez i like that new Dusty Bronze colour Kakadu Car Advice does the test drive on (link on this thread, post #360)......looks nothing like the colour shown online and in the brochure, haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but if i had before i signed on the dotted line i might have changed the order......they mention right at the end of the video that it's the Dusty Bronze.....looks more of a pewter colour than the brochures ginger colour that turned me off.

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                  • Originally posted by bigowenb View Post
                    To late for me because i'm picking up the Crystal Pearl Kakadu on Thursday but geez i like that new Dusty Bronze colour Kakadu Car Advice does the test drive on (link on this thread, post #360)......looks nothing like the colour shown online and in the brochure, haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but if i had before i signed on the dotted line i might have changed the order......they mention right at the end of the video that it's the Dusty Bronze.....looks more of a pewter colour than the brochures ginger colour that turned me off.
                    I fully agree, in fact that review is the first place I heard of the colour let alone see it on the vehicle. I checked the Toyota website and it looks totally different when going through the customise process; it looks more like sand. I'd still prefer to see one in the flesh with my own eyes but if it's close to that video review I think that would be on my shortlist of colours (Peacock Black, Wildfire & Dusty Bronze)

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                    • Originally posted by Snouto View Post
                      Ah okay, you're talking about NZ. That sounds essentially like the Altitude models here in Oz, which has been discontinued this refresh.
                      Well, never saw an Altitude version (of the 150) in NZ, but from what I could work out at the time from OZ friends, was that the Altitude was a GXL version with some of the goodies from the Kakadu, but differed in at least one important feature being there was no KDSS (which my 2010 VX does have), whereas the current Kakadu is only different from the NZ Limited version by the addition of the extra fuel tank, which would be completely unnecessary here due to the much shorter travel distances.
                      Rgds, Rob

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                      • I went for a white Prado with beige interior and always use a screen shade when parked. Stays relatively cool but the Prados powerful aircon and multiple vents (incl. boot area) helps. When washing cars I notice a big difference in how quickly water evaporates off my white compared to my wife's car which has dark blue paintwork. I must admit that some of the non-white colours do look a bit more interesting.
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                        • I've seen the 2018 models at the dealer and a couple on the road. The front end looks so much better than the previous sad face design, plus I really like the dash this time for a prado.
                          I think the auto gxl with leather, will be the pick, but the ute based opposition are considerably cheaper and with more features, although prob not exactly the same class of wagon as the Prado.
                          I think I'll need to test the Everest, and Pajero sport to compare.
                          I know the Prado although the underpinnings are older than the competition, it's the only dedicated wagon design, other than the new discovery but I wouldnt consider that suitable for an outback touring rig, more town / golf club show pony.
                          At $ 62-64 k for the gxl Prado depending on options, or do I consider the GX land cruiser for $ 72-74 k.
                          I like the size, spec, fuel range of the prado, diff lock, etc, but not to confident on the engine will be enough with modest weight increase in extras.
                          The GX cruiser although basic, would meet my needs but needs gvm upgrade and possibly soft ware upgrade to gearbox to improve fuel costs, but larger for the day today commute to work and parking etc.

                          Prado $ 70 ish spec'd with AT tyres, alloy bull bar, dual batteries, 2 inch lift, rear draws, etc which is still considerable money.

                          Or GX cruiser $82 ish for the above spec, a lot of extra cash for more engine and bigger interior, but without any of the goodies the Prado gxl brings?

                          Decisions ??

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                          • Hey Fasteddie,

                            I admire your analytical and thought processes.

                            Toyota have put in a lot of goodies / features in the GXL like the safety system, radar cruise control, factory rear diff lock, etc. I guess they had to do that because the motor isn't up to the competition, e.g. Ford Everest's lusty albeit not refined 3.2, etc.

                            If I were in your shoes, I'd pick the 200 Series GX. Sure it doesn't have the extra safety (but we've all survived without it thus far) and if you really wanted a diff lock, you can go aftermarket one day. The extra dough buys an additional 4 cylinders of urge, which is something very difficult to replicate on the Prado for the same outlay.

                            Resale value - arguably the 200.

                            I wouldn't be too hung up re the auto trans programming. All those gearbox modifications to tame the engine revs will just increase the soot levels for the exhaust/DPF, and possibly the inlet manifold. Let that motor rev and for the same amount of fuel expended over the higher revs, less soot is produced. Better for the environment, and so what if you spend a bit more on fuel, as the remaps and lockup kits cost so much for what they are.

                            Daily commute isn't a problem - turning circle is tight enough on the 200 Series to make it surprisingly agile in the daily grind and parking in the city. If you want luxury, you can always go aftermarket leather down the track when the interior of the 200 gets a bit worn. The same will happen on a Prado with leather seats over time.

                            The only thing which the Prado has over the 200 by a long shot is the significant extra range, thanks to the larger fuel tank and the more economical engine. But how often do you do a Simpson desert crossing? Some jerry cans can address that, and is still cheaper, even if you throw them out at the end of the trip, compared to aftermarket fuel tanks.

                            You didn't mention if you towed, but even if you didn't the extra mumbo for overtaking from the 4.5 litre V8 makes up for all shortcomings.

                            Now I will have to duck for cover, as I do realise I am in a Prado forum! Happy decision making! And just buy that GX and enjoy the practicality of the barn doors and cavernous cargo bay area.

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                            • It's pretty tough to stump up 70 odd k in 2017 for a vehicle with no reverse camera, rear air vents or steering wheel controls or trip computer. Or exposed barn door hinges that were in fashion in 1965! Don't let Toyota australia treat us like muppets with a gx 200. I reckon if you can't afford a 200 gxl then stick with the Prado. Keep in mind a safe dyno tune will get you close or same to standard vdj200 power without the extra weight.

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                              • In late 2015 I tested Prado vs Fortuner vs Pajero Sport vs Everest vs LC200. Both Pajero Sport and Fortuner are much narrower in the 2nd row. The Everest drove well but the build quality was way down on a Prado. I liked the LC200 (GXL) but bigger and more expensive than I needed. Went for the 2.8 GLX Prado and happy with it (but the 2018 LED lights, safety gear and diff lock are a step up along with better looks). The 2.8 performance seems to improve a lot with running in and not really a big issue I think unless towing big vans.

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