Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Service/warranty question - how to approach issue with steering, handbrake & stereo

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Service/warranty question - how to approach issue with steering, handbrake & stereo

    This post covers a number of areas so I thought I'd put it here.

    I've just had our Prado 80,000km service done by the dealer round the corner from work. I didn't tell them to look out for anything special - at the time I couldn't think of anything that wasn't obvious. The hand brake wasn't working well (hit the end stop without really holding the vehicle) but I figured they should be checking that anyway.

    First thing I notice is that the handbrake wasn't adjusted properly and comes all the way up till it hits the end stop. It seemed ok in their driveway, I was in a hurry and there was a queue inside because they were trying to close early so I thought I'd come back in a day or so to get it checked. But the question remains - how come they didn't adjust it.

    Then I remembered that up in the Kimberley a few weeks ago the front right corner was making a knocking sound sometimes. I was at my non-Toyota mechanic so got him to jack the car up and wobbled the front right wheel - it has heaps of steering left/right play in it. My guess is that the steering rack end has failed.

    I'm concerned that they didn't pick it up - how can they take the wheels off and not notice that much movement? My other mechanic thinks they should have - it's a pretty obvious problem when there is no weight on the wheel with the wheel wobbling easily by hand.

    I'm also wondering if people think it should be covered by the factory warranty. My other mechanic says it should be - I think they'll blame it on me driving on corrugated roads.

    Related to that, the CD player won't eject the CD inside it any more - should that be a warranty issue? I can't see how that one is my fault!

    And once again they said they rotated my tyres but haven't - I know because I have 3 Toyo and 1 Cooper tyres (I cut a sidewall in Newman and that was all I could get) and the Cooper tyre is in the same spot (back left).

    Do I jump up and down? Scream & yell? Talk to the front desk person or the service manager? Any hints on how to get them to fix it?

    I think I need to find somewhere else to service it. I was using Toyota because we have the extended warranty/extra-care and I didn't want questions being asked if something went wrong in the middle of nowhere. When we stopped on the side of the road on the Mitchell Falls Rd, Kimberley, Toyota Extra Care were going to send out a flatbed truck to get the Prado back to Kunanurra whilst also towing our Tvan and they were looking at sending a car up with the flatbed so that my family could all drive back (since 5 of us won't fit in the tow truck, especially with a 6yr old who needs a car seat). My thinking was that if I had the car serviced by Toyota then they wouldn't be able to blame the previous service person for causing the problem and asking me to pay up. Does anyone have any experience with that? Otherwise I'll get it serviced at Arcus in Artarmon - not far from work (or the Toyota dealer...)

  • #2
    Another thing... I dug up the service handbook online and it says the 80,000km service should take 4.8hrs. I dropped the car off at 10am and they rang at 12:30 to say it was ready - max 2.5hrs. Aside from the fact that they don't seem to have done a few things, how likely is it that they had 2 or more people working on it? That's the only way I can see that they could have finished that quickly.

    Comment


    • #3
      ..
      Last edited by TCT888; 31-07-2017, 08:47 PM.

      Comment


      • #4
        Doesn't a D4D take 7 litres of oil, a Ryco filter is $15 from Supercheap and not sure what oil you use that costs 30 bucks, crisco? Magnatec is $80 bucks for 10l. My services still cost me $249 now that it''s out of fixed price servicing and for $249 I'm not getting under my car, cause I can't do it in 30 minutes and I've got better things to do. Im not sure why we always pick on apprentices either, great mechanics start off as appentices. I think I'd rather trust an apprentice to do an oil change over someone with no training and a keen interest?

        Comment


        • #5
          A V6 also takes 6.
          Even at trade I pay more than $10 for a decent filter.
          I could probably get a coffee strainer paper type filter for under $10 however, I wouldn't use them.
          I only use ulx110 oil. Even At trade it's more than $6 litre.
          You could probably get some remanufactured no name for less. But is your engine worth it?

          Comment


          • #6
            ..
            Last edited by TCT888; 31-07-2017, 08:46 PM.

            Comment


            • #7
              Sorry to hear that, for you but not for me so much as it confirms my decision early on to ignore Toyota servicing. It's exactly why I have never taken mine to a Toyota dealership, except for the recent ECU/ DPF recall (that they claim wasn't one). Next time you go in (if you ever go back) ask for the person who worked on your car. It'll be a 1st or 2nd year apprentice un-supervised. No issues with apprentice workers - but they need to be supervised. If they can get away with their manager by telling him/ her they have rotated the tyres but they haven't, then they will.

              I usually have 4 days in the Southern Highlands at Berrima Diesel per year for exactly this. One trained person working on the car with a vested interest of continuing their exceptional reputation. Everything been done by the book and using genuine parts for the warranty side of the house. Cost is around $450 each time, but I'd much prefer to pay that knowing everything has been done.

              As soon as I looked at the capped price $220 service I wondered where they are going to be making their money...

              Comment


              • #8
                Hi,


                With my dealer if the tyres are worn out they don't rotate them, or leave the best ones on the front, so maybe with yours as there is 3 of one brand and 1 other brand they probably didn't want to mix brands of front tyres which makes sense, so they probably didn't do it but they should have told you thats why they didn't do it. If they didn't do the rotation due to the tyres being different them maybe they didn't notice the free play in the front end and as you didn't mention it they didn't look for it, maybe?

                Is the CD a genuine CD or a burnt copy as the labels on the burnt copies are slippery compared to authentic CD's and some machines can't handle them, if they are authentic and not burnt copies then yes it should probably be warranty, IMO

                On the steering free play, warranty is given for faulty workmanship or materials, not for something wearing out so this one will be up to the dealer, if you've been getting it serviced there you think they would do it to keep a customer happy but if you haven't been then they may choose to play hard ball with you.


                cheers

                Comment


                • #9
                  Oh, and on this my dealer does use two mechanics (probably apprentices) to do the servicing as it cuts the time down dramatically - I know as once when I queried something they showed me the CCTV of the workshop and there it was two guys working on the car.

                  Cheers

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I myself had very bad service experience with Mazda, Suzuki, but not with Toyota so far. I drove 20KM away from home to city Toyota, i know it doesn't make sense as there is Toyota service 5KM away from my garage, for peace of mine i picked the service station that i trust. For every service i will tribble check what they have done on my vehicle, drive shaft grease ( I hope they will wipe off the excess grease properly ), tyres rotation, torq spec they applied on wheel nuts (i hate over torq), engine oil level etc. At 12 months / 20K service I was supervised they had changed the fuel filter ( underneath between fuel tanks ), as you may aware they just don’t give a shit to change it, at least it happened to my friend’s 2014 prado kakadu diesel, found out 80K later the filter was the original one from brand new car. So my point is for $220 cap still worth to go but have to carefully pick the right one. Regards to the profit from $220 cap price servicing, if I’m not mistaken, Toyota service station will be able to claim back XXX amount of money for the labor and parts for the new car service from Toyota. Can anyone confirm this?
                    2015 Prado 2.8 D4D

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by prodoco View Post
                      Regards to the profit from $220 cap price servicing, if I’m not mistaken, Toyota service station will be able to claim back XXX amount of money for the labor and parts for the new car service from Toyota. Can anyone confirm this?

                      Yes that is correct, dealer charges Toyota for the difference

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by REN470 View Post
                        Yes that is correct, dealer charges Toyota for the difference
                        Confirmed. This myth that the dealer only get paid the $220 is BS and comes from people that haven't asked the question.
                        Cheers
                        Micheal.

                        2008 GXL D4D Auto. GOING... GOING... GONE
                        2015 GXL 1GD Auto. And it begins again...

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 120D4D View Post
                          Confirmed. This myth that the dealer only get paid the $220 is BS and comes from people that haven't asked the question.
                          I did ask the question, from the manager himself at my (old) local dealer in NSW. It was him who brought the idea to he wasn't getting paid anyway, to which I replied well that doesn't give me confidence in the cap price service fee. He was the one who replied that it would save the company money at least... it then went into general conversation about it all and how if he were to ask Toyota to charge for the real cost, then he would be advised that there are plenty of other Toyota-Franchise owners in waiting... The conversation was overheard by another elderly gent in the room, and when I passed him he told me the locals only ever come here for warranty jobs, not servicing (so it may have been the dealership itself).

                          Another part though that he mentioned (where Toyota do pay up) is if you sell a car for a loss, in order to make the sale. Apparently Toyota will refund you the difference there, within reason. I thought that was interesting.

                          Yes this was a genuine Toyota dealership, also a Honda and a couple of other makes.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I stand corrected CamJam - that is surprising and perhaps because they were a multi-brand dealer. Toyo dealers wouldn't cop that methinks.
                            Cheers
                            Micheal.

                            2008 GXL D4D Auto. GOING... GOING... GONE
                            2015 GXL 1GD Auto. And it begins again...

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Update - things are progressing slowly...

                              After I found the rack end issue I took another look at underneath the car today. Oh boy...

                              It looks like they haven't done quite a few things.
                              - grease prop shaft
                              - tighten prop shaft bolts
                              - change rear diff oil
                              - change brake fluid
                              - check transfer case oil
                              - check auto transmission oil
                              - check power steering fluid
                              - check fuel system (there is a large rock wedged on the fuel lines near the sub tank)

                              as well as a few doubtful things:
                              - change front diff oil
                              - balance front wheels

                              I also appear to have an oil leak from the front diff and one of my front shocks is leaking oil - neither were mentioned.

                              I'm meeting with them on Friday to go through it. The dealer principle and sales guy are aware of what is going on. Apparently it isn't how they do things.

                              I'll let you know how it goes.

                              Comment

                              canli bahis siteleri bahis siteleri ecebet.net
                              mencisport.com
                              antalya escort
                              tsyd.org deneme bonusu veren siteler
                              deneme bonusu veren siteler
                              gaziantep escort
                              gaziantep escort
                              asyabahis maltcasino olabahis olabahis
                              erotik film izle Rus escort gaziantep rus escort
                              atasehir escort tuzla escort
                              sikis sex hatti
                              en iyi casino siteleri
                              deneme bonusu veren siteler
                              casibom
                              deneme bonusu veren siteler
                              deneme bonusu veren siteler
                              betticket istanbulbahis
                              Working...
                              X