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  • New 120/150 Prado one-piece IFS Lower Control Arms from Fulcrum/Superpro

    Hey all,

    There have been a few posts recently on replacing worn out bushes in the IFS lower control arms, particularly in older 120 Prados. This has been problematic from the perspective that there has not been an after market complete-arm replacement, and as such many owners (myself included) have gone through the difficult process of removing flogged out bushes/and or seized adjusting cams.

    The R&D team from Fulcrum/Superpro have now released a one-piece complete arm replacement, which includes a new arm, new ball joint, new Superpro bushings, and new one-piece forged cam bolts, shown below.



    The arms are a similar geometry and design to the OEM arms, and utilise similar thickness robotically welded steel plate. The new ball joint works within the same included angle as the OEM ball joint. Bushings are constructed from Superpro material, and are available in standard or camber offset geometry.

    The cam bolts are an interesting design, and replace the troublesome cam/sleeve design from Toyota, eliminating the potential for seized cams. The bolts are one-piece drop forged, and utilise a reduced centre section which avoids the possibility of seizing, and which can be filled and lubricated with a healthy helping of anti-sieze.



    Here’s a photo of the arms on my 120;



    Shot of the Superpro bushings;



    Close up of the ball joint;



    I’ve been driving on these for a few weeks now, and while they felt a bit stiffer than the OEM arms during their break in period, I can’t tell the difference now driving along bumpy Brisbane streets, their ride feel on hard surfaces is excellent.

    Part numbers are TRD471 for standard, and TRC472 for offset bushings.

    Next up for these arms is a good off road test!

    Best

    Mark
    2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

  • #2
    These look good.

    What situation would the offset bushes come into play?

    Approximate costs?

    Group buy situation?

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    • #3
      Hey Piggy,

      I think the offset bushes will be appropriate if you are still running OEM upper arms, that way you can milk maximum caster in lifted geometry without worrying about the camber so much, as you'll get it from the bushes instead.

      I haven't been able to get a cost from Fulcrum yet as these are their prototypes, but I can definitely arrange a group buy if there's enough interest!

      Best

      Mark
      2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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      • #4
        Interesting development.

        the pics stop working?

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        • #5
          Dropbox pics work for me on PC but not android. Probably just my personal it retardedness

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          • #6
            Will the bottom shock mount cradle be specific for 120 and 150?

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            • #7
              Hi Mark
              Spoke to Fulcrum today and they indicated the arm and part numbers were for Hilux 2005-15 series. And different from the Prado120 specs. Can you elaborate on your experience. Thanks

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              • #8
                Originally posted by amts View Post
                Will the bottom shock mount cradle be specific for 120 and 150?
                According to Fulcrum the cradle width is the same for 120 and 150.

                Best

                Mark
                2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Subbo View Post
                  Hi Mark
                  Spoke to Fulcrum today and they indicated the arm and part numbers were for Hilux 2005-15 series. And different from the Prado120 specs. Can you elaborate on your experience. Thanks
                  Hey Ivan,

                  Good catch, the correct part numbers for the 120 series can be found here;

                  https://www.superpro.com.au/find/sup.../cid-999500514

                  Best

                  Mark
                  2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Whitey View Post
                    According to Fulcrum the cradle width is the same for 120 and 150.

                    Best

                    Mark
                    OK, so crush the cradle when fitting 120 struts?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by amts View Post
                      OK, so crush the cradle when fitting 120 struts?
                      ...change "crush" to "flex".

                      I haven't measured the exact cradle width compared to oem 120 and 150 arms, but it looks fine on my 120.

                      Best

                      Mark
                      2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                      • #12
                        Ours looks to be about 39.6mm on the 120, and 39.4mm on the 150.
                        2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by photoprado View Post
                          Ours looks to be about 39.6mm on the 120, and 39.4mm on the 150.
                          That's fake news, hahaha! Here's the real news;

                          http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthr...rut-dimensions
                          2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                          • #14
                            Hey guys, bringing up an old thread but did anyone end up installing TRD471 or TRC472 into their Prado's? More particularly the 120? Was there any issues?

                            I know there is the Prado specific ones that exist. Just may have some easier access to the Hilux ones

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                            • #15
                              Any long term feedback on these Superpro arms?
                              Part number now is TRC471
                              https://fulcrumsuspensions.com.au/fr...481-89291.html
                              $435.98 a pair looks like a Black Friday special.

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