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  • #16
    Originally posted by 5T3L7H View Post
    This. +1

    I've always run after market double DIN units in my cars, with GPS functionality. Been super reliable (Alpine), no problems yet, touch wood. There are plenty of swish single DIN units with fold out screens too, that would allow for a two-way or some other toys to be mounted neatly underneath. I'm very much a fan of the OEM look. There are lots of units out there these days that look very clean, not necessarily all bright colours and flashy lights, like was the rage a few years back.

    As Topic97 has already said, going after market will give you better sound quality too. Not only that, but it also offers a lot more flexibility. In the future you might decide to add a monitor(s) in the rear for the kids, amplifiers, digital radio, TV receiver, etc. Many after market multimedia units also have good auxiliary functionality, allowing numerous formats of connections in and out for audio and video. Newer models are even starting to come with HDMI inputs/outputs, so you can plug in a laptop if you are that way inclined. How many factory units can do that...?

    Most brand name units will have optional support for steering wheel controls too. None of my cars have ever had steering wheel controls, so I can't comment first hand, but reading on other forums suggests the interfaces are pretty reliable.

    Also, don't be scared of something just because it isn't plug and play. Modifying is half the fun, and you get a real sense of achievement when you've "custom fit" something after market into your car yourself. If you're even remotely handy with a soldering iron, and know how to measure voltage and resistance with a multimeter (not hard to figure out if its your first time), you've got it covered.

    Apologies if I sound a bit passionate, I'm a bit of an audio nut (and a sparky by trade).

    I too also love my car audio, and almost all things car related, but I can give you a few reasons why I would go for the Toyota unit mentioned above.
    - Cost -$550 for the Toyota GPS & 2 x $20 for adapter looms = $590
    -Pioneer GPS approx $1500, adapter loom for basic function $25 ($15 if you are handy with the soldering iron), steering control adapter $130 plug & play ($110 if you don't mind hacking into your wiring) & $20 for infill panels for either side of the head unit = $1645-$1675
    - Looks, the genuine one fits and just looks right, not aftermarket at all
    - Usability, the genuine most people will find easier to use, especially those not "interested" in car audio

    As for the "arguments" of sound quality, if you are truely looking for SQ, a DSP will work just as well with your genuine head unit as the "entry" level aftermarket GPS units available, anyone looking for SQ is going to be running amps and aftermarket speakers. With the money saved from buying this genuine head unit you can buy a Mosconi 6to8v8 (arguably the best DSP available) or a audison bit10, both of which will have more processing options and give better sound out than just the aftermarket head unit.

    There are also modules around to allow different inputs into the genuine head units, but most people won't be interested in watching TV while driving down the road.

    Aftermarket head units do have there place, but there are plenty of arguments for the genuine item, especially when it is this cheap
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    • #17
      Originally posted by AussieAndy View Post
      I too also love my car audio, and almost all things car related, but I can give you a few reasons why I would go for the Toyota unit mentioned above.
      - Cost -$550 for the Toyota GPS & 2 x $20 for adapter looms = $590
      Hats off to you Andy, that solution does make a lot more sense. I've always run amps and after market speakers myself, so stupidly I often assume other people will be doing the same.

      For the application required by the OP, I definitely agree with you, the factory unit mentioned is the way to go!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 5T3L7H View Post
        Hats off to you Andy, that solution does make a lot more sense. I've always run amps and after market speakers myself, so stupidly I often assume other people will be doing the same.

        For the application required by the OP, I definitely agree with you, the factory unit mentioned is the way to go!
        Too easy, it is all to easy to start to go over the top, especially when it is for someone else who wouldn't really get the benefit out of it. For example my dad is happy to have bluetooth, FM radio and a CD player. My current savings plan is going towards a Mosconi D2 100.4 DSP, D2 150.2 & Morel speakers all run active, and I'm trying to work out if I have room to practically run a sub, then it'll be what sub and what amp (probably a D2 500.1 & Morel 10" if it'll fit). I want to run this from the factory head unit because it looks factory and I haven't seen a neat way of fitting an aftermarket unit into a facelift 150 yet. (This savings plan could be going on for a while......)
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        • #19
          Originally posted by AussieAndy View Post
          ...
          Mosconi D2 100.4 DSP, D2 150.2 & Morel speakers all run active, and I'm trying to work out if I have room to practically run a sub, then it'll be what sub and what amp (probably a D2 500.1 & Morel 10" if it'll fit).
          ...
          Andy, I feel like we enthusiasts are hijacking the thread a bit here.

          I've sent you a PM so we can chat about our passion in further detail.

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          • #20
            G'day Dave. Did you fix the sound problem? I have done a similar install on my 2008 GXL and had same problem. I installed a PZQ60-00531 which looks similar. The issue was with slightly different pinouts on the radio models. I am unfamiliar with the toyota oem wiring adapter harnesses as purchased some harnesses from amazon and adapted to my use. On my prado there is a black wire with plug and socket on LHS of radio unit separate to other harnesses. It is used to power the external antenna amp and connects via the 16pin main radio socket to pin 8. Pin 8 on old radio is Ant + and on the later radio it is Tmute. So when connected will mute your sound. The new radio Ant + is via the antenna socket. The antenna adapter harness should have a spare wire for this. Just disconnect the black connector and join to the antenna amp side. I also connected the park brake sense to ground. That is pin 6 on the 16 pin rear camera connector. just link pin 6 to pin 15. Hope that helps . Cheers Rod

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            • #21
              I too have purchased this unit and have no sound, not using any adaptor yet, just the existing cable that went into the old grande nav unit. Anyone got anywhere without splicing into cables?

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              • #22
                Hi Caleb2003.
                You shouldn't need to splice into any cables. The only one I needed to splice into was the reverse signal for reverse camera operation.
                As I said above you will probably need to disconnect the black antenna amp cable. However your vehicle maybe slightly different to my 2008 GXL.
                Cheers Rod

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rodmac View Post
                  Hi Caleb2003.
                  You shouldn't need to splice into any cables. The only one I needed to splice into was the reverse signal for reverse camera operation.
                  As I said above you will probably need to disconnect the black antenna amp cable. However your vehicle maybe slightly different to my 2008 GXL.
                  Cheers Rod
                  Thanks, I got hold of the adaptor PZQ60-00161 for the antenna and the sound worked straight away.

                  Does anyone know specifically what the adaptor PZQ60-00141 is for? I don't have steering wheel controls but I do have a rear amera I had for an old stereo. Toyota guy seemed to think it was for the Navigation in some way? (which for me hasn't been able to find a signal yet)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by caleb2003 View Post
                    Thanks, I got hold of the adaptor PZQ60-00161 for the antenna and the sound worked straight away.

                    Does anyone know specifically what the adaptor PZQ60-00141 is for? I don't have steering wheel controls but I do have a rear amera I had for an old stereo. Toyota guy seemed to think it was for the Navigation in some way? (which for me hasn't been able to find a signal yet)
                    Adapter 141, is it the one with three wires coming off it? If so its for reverse signal in, handbrake earth signal and speed signal if my memory is correct.

                    As for your gps not picking up a signal, do you have the gas antenna?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by AussieAndy View Post
                      Adapter 141, is it the one with three wires coming off it? If so its for reverse signal in, handbrake earth signal and speed signal if my memory is correct.

                      As for your gps not picking up a signal, do you have the gas antenna?
                      Ok, thanks for the description. GPS worked after a longer journey, just needed to get out of the trees I Guess.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Razorback81 View Post
                        the purple & white is the speed sensor
                        the red is for the handbrake ( but i connected it to earth)
                        green is the reverse wire

                        i think you will need to use both the adaptors as one is a 20 pin to 28 pin
                        mine used all the plugs and worked straight away

                        I just got this harness but expected a female Video in plug for the Reverse camera, which wire uses this signal?

                        Thanks

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                        • #27
                          Reverse Camera Issue...

                          Originally posted by Razorback81 View Post
                          i have just fitted the PZQ60-00535 it fits straight in no worries, I used the adapters PZQ60-00141 & PZQ60-00161 as AussieAndy said

                          you should have the wiring through the car for the rear camera (if you buy one!)

                          if you need any help send me a PM

                          James

                          still trying to work out how to get the satnav to tell me how fast i am going ??? everything else works a treat
                          way better that the Kenwood DNN9150BT i fitted for $1500

                          the PZQ60-00535 is on sale on ebay $565 delivered
                          I have just fitted a PZQ60 to my 2013 GX Prado with an aftermarket reversing camera. I have to select reverse before the radio unit completes its boot sequence other wise the camera doesn't work when I put the car in reverse just wondering if you had a similar problem?

                          Thanks

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                          • #28
                            Where would be the best place to buy this PZQ60-00535 radio? Wreckers? Tried searching Amayama but no luck. And is the 2016 better than 2015 or same thing?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tappets View Post
                              Hi,

                              I bought the adaptors PZQ60-00141 and PZQ-00161 ( only needed the aerial) I have the head unit working and the steering controls respond but I have no sound! The power and speaker plugs from the car fit directly into the radio. Any ideas?

                              PZQ60-00141 has 3 long cables, one purple & white, second is red and the third green with a fuse holder. Does anyone have a wiring diagram?

                              Thanks

                              Dave
                              Dave . Just fitted same unit and same issue no audio , how did you resolve this problem . Appreciate Victor

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