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  • #16
    Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

    Samo,

    I have been reading so many of your posts and have enjoyed the pictures also. This gx is an o4 diesel has bullbar, towbar, sidesteps, roofracks, electric brakes (we have a 17ft van) has already done 140,000km and is a gold colour with a light interior. It cost us 28,000. I drove it today for the first time. It is nice, I can see why you all love them and why I had so much trouble finding one I could afford.

    Eli.

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    • #17
      Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

      good to see ya enjoy it eli, dont let the abs worry ya 2 much, just drive it to the conditions and to will get you there and back no worries, they may be the base model but at least there is no flares to get ripped off or scratch the bumpers to much lol, and besides its like a blank canvas lol, thats my excuse and im sticking to it. cheers samo
      had an 03 gx 120 with some gear now got a 2013 bt 50 GT auto some ARB gear.

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      • #18
        Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

        I agree with most of the others. The point raised above about decent tyres is very valid. Your tyres are the most important safety item on your vehicle IMO. Keep them in good condition and at correct pressure, and you are way ahead of a lot of people. Remember, your new vehicle is full time 4wd. That makes a big safety difference as well.
        2008 Diesel Prado with extra stuff added. I drive it on the road and other places too.

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        • #19
          Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

          Thanks Davros,


          what would be the safest tyre to put on the gx, I know they are skinnier than the gxl (good or bad?) , any recommendation would be greatly appreciated.

          Eli

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          • #20
            Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

            Originally posted by eli
            Hi, I am new hear (first post). I have been reading for a while, fell in love with the prado (you all seem very happy) and today am picking up my 2004 manual diesel GX. I have been looking forward to this day until last night when I realized that it doesnt have the ABS that the GXL model does. I have 5 children under 14years and am concerned that I should have saved a bit harder and gone for the GXL so I am travelling in the safest car. Do I sell this one straight away and get an older GXL or is the ABS not a major safety issue. Please help. And thankyou for any responce, I will appreciate it.

            Regards Eli.
            Hi Eli,

            I would not be too worried about not having ABS. I got my motorbike licence a couple of years after a car licence (many years ago) and I did an advance rider course with Honda as part of that. There they tought me to threshold brake. Then I proceeded to ride in Melbourne for 4 years while at uni virtually never using the car without any accidents in all weather. I find that now I can't even force myself to brake in a fashion to actually make ABS work. On a motorbike you cannot wait until your tyre lock up before releasing it, you need to judge the maximum braking power you can apply just before it locks up.

            If you enrol in an advance driver course you can ask them to teach you this. I had to do one some years ago for work. We did the breaking tests on a dirt road and I stopped the vehicle faster (just - about 1m difference) from 60km /h that the ABS could. It would probably be opposite on bitumen, but just shows that ABS is good but if you know the vehicle and know how to control it, you can do just as well.

            The other thing to remember that if you have good tyres with decent tread and brakes well serviced you will probably pull up a lot sooner than someone who has crap tyres and ABS.

            Enjoy your new car...

            Peter
            [size=7][color=#0000BF]Late 2008 GXL D4D 6sp man, white, Sovereign bull bar, 2.5t tow bar, Head light protectors, Bonnet protector, Cargo mat, Front side window weathershields, Roof rack & bars, Dual bateries[/color][/size]

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            • #21
              Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

              Originally posted by eli
              what would be the safest tyre to put on the gx, I know they are skinnier than the gxl (good or bad?) , any recommendation would be greatly appreciated.

              Eli
              Hey Eli ;
              There are plenty of tyre threads on PP to look at and get ideas from, but really you should look at the type of
              driving you will be doing, ie theres no point buying muddies if touring the highways with little offroad. There are some very
              good road tyres available for 4wds now (mainly for all the European designed 4X4s on the market) but should be able to get most standard sizes easily. as for skinnier rims than GXL generally tyres are cheaper to buy for these rims anyway........
              If thinking about a particular tyre in mind just ask on the forum, someone on here will know the answer, such is the miracle of Pradopoint :mrgreen:

              Cheers Mate
              Ryan
              Unruly Unrestrained Unleashed

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              • #22
                Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

                I have a GX 2004 with no ABS. Doesn't concern me. Avoiding the situations is better than having to deal with them, but there is always a chance something will happen out there. As has been said before, a course is a good thing not only for braking, but also generally learning how not to panic and deal with the situation at hand. In many cases the panic reaction is the wrong thing to do. For example, hitting the brakes and swerving in a 4wd can roll it. (Like the poor lady in the 100 series in Corro drive in BNE last year... she got cut off next minute the car is on its side.)

                I totally agree with tyres being the most important saftey factor.. and they work for you 24x7, not just in emergency braking situations.

                I have had 1 incident in the prado where I emergency braked, no problems avoiding the situation.

                There are limited tyres for the smaller rims, but I have Dunlop AT3's and they are ALOT better than the AT20's especially
                in the wet and on dirt.

                D
                2004 GX TD; Some extra stuff... and a big wish list...

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                • #23
                  Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

                  Peter,

                  Thankyou very much for the advice. I am feeling more confident about my purchase now.

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                  • #24
                    Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

                    hi dereki,

                    It is nice to hear from someone who has first hand had the gx brake in an emergency situation. Thankyou for the advice on the tyre also. Did the lady in bne survive the accident (hope all is well). You are a nearby cousin in Brisbane, I am in Toowoomba and am happy that you responded, the first person I have come across who has a similar gx to mine. I have noticed alot of gxl,s. Thanks again.

                    Eli

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                    • #25
                      Re: My GX 2004 doesnt have ABS, is that bad?

                      The ABS brakes won't magically turn your driving into an accident free experience. They are not the huge leap in technology car sharks would have you believe. Since they have been introduced have you noticed any increase in non-ABS vehicles leaping off the road? If anything should go wrong with them reach for your chequebook mate and take out another loan against the house. My Prado has it fitted as standard and whilst it works ok on the seal it is pretty ordinary on the rough stuff. I could take it or leave it and it most certainly would not influence my buying decisions. Prado's have good brakes anyway - enjoy the truck and don't stress any!
                      2005 100 Series Landcruiser. 4.2 T/D 5 speed auto. LTD c/w AHC/Leather etc.

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