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  • #16
    Re: Eaton E,locker

    There are a few fitted to jeeps in my jeep club, the guys all love them, no failures yet not like the problems they were having destroying thier Arb air lockers , the lockers get regulary abused in extreme conditions, so I don't think you should see any problems in the prado as the prados will never see the extreme streess on their diffs like the jeeps do
    2007 D4D auto, Tunit Power Module, Scan GaugeII, Bilsteins & lovels HD, raised 50mm front & 60mm rear, 10,000lb Tmax winch, 7/16th Amsteelblue synthetic 23,000lb winch cable, TiTan HD winch solenoid pack, Outback draws with fridge slide & 50 litre Waeco, Ryno roof rack & Alloy Cage & extra set of Rhino HD Roof bars x 3, TJM type 15 steel Bullbar powder coated silver, Dual battery setup with custom tray, Bosch Navigator spots with 55w HID kit, Sand Grabber mats, Toyota Tow Bar, Sensor Touch Electric Brakes, Cooper ST 265/70/17 tyres, Uniden remote head UHF radio, Modified Milford Cargo Barrier, Extra power points in the back run with 10mm wire for fridge & inverter, Anderson plugs with 10mm wire front & back for the camper & compresor conections. 7 inch in dash JVC DVD player with bluetooth & Ipod adaptor, 39DB Stebel High Power TM80/2 Magnum Electric Horns. JL Audio 300/4, 300/2 power amps, Pioneer TS-C160R front splits & TS-D161S rear speakers & 12" Pioneer sub

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    • #17
      Re: Eaton E,locker

      Originally posted by gxl_d4d
      Dosn't the 120 series GXL prado already have an LSD with lock function?

      I recall seeing this when I test drove one.
      Not in Australia. LSD yes, lock no. I think they offer lock in other markets though.

      Michael
      2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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      • #18
        Re: Eaton E,locker

        Actually that should read: LSD, a bit, sometimes, on a good day, if no one is watching; lock, no.......................................
        My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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        • #19
          Re: Eaton E,locker

          Originally posted by photoprado
          LSD yes
          If you could call it that.
          2014 Toyota Prado 150 D4D Auto (facelift); ARB Deluxe Bullbar; OME 2" Lift; Rhino Pioneer Platform Rack; Redarc BCDC 1225 with Optima Yellow Top; BF Goodrich Mud Terrain KM2; Lightforce Genuine Custom 70w HID; GME UHF; Safari Snorkel; Rigid Industry SR-Q2 side lights (yet to be installed); Domin8or winch (yet to be installed)

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          • #20
            Re: Eaton E,locker

            Actually we should qualify the comments about the LSD. If the 120 GXL has option pack 1 and is an automatic then it doesn't have an LSD becuase it has traction and stability control. If it doesn't have the electronic aids then it is fitted with an LSD from the factory but the Toyota LSD is renowned for being fairly poor in operation and the LSD function very short lived. I don't have an LSD in my 120 becuase of the option packs (GX auto with op I and II) but my 90 had the factory LSD and by the time it had 20,000km the car wouldn't scuff wet grass on tight turns.
            My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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            • #21
              Re: Eaton E,locker

              The problem with option pack 1 is that it turns off the VSC when you lock the centre diff.
              2019 GXL, Bullbar, UHF, Redarc Brake Controller, Tow Bar, Secondary Fuel Filter

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              • #22
                Re: Eaton E,locker

                If you don't have the option pack then you don't have VSC so I cannot see the difference. I am not sure where you would want VSC when it is rough/loose enough to have the centre diff locked. On the beach? Better to keep full power available, you shouldn't be going fast anyway. In soft sand you definately want VSC off. I towed my trailer through a sand track that I used to take with the 90 without the centre diff locked. It took me two goes (yep, bit dim) to realise that everytime the wheel speeds varied enough the VSC started backing the engine power off and I was getting close to coming to a halt in the middle of the track. I would be able to drive my 2wd Rodeo ute through the track. TC still works with the centre diff locked and that is all you need. I have bicycled the 120 through rough stuff with the traction control keeping power to the wheels on the ground and without VSC deciding to take away my desperately needed Nm. Give it a go. Try and climb a sand dune with and without diff lock. I know which will get you further and do less damage to the track.
                My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                • #23
                  Re: Eaton E,locker

                  Originally posted by way/bel
                  Has any body looked, seen, or read about the new eaton e locker sold buy Harrop Eng. Advert in 4x4 aus mag.Look good, but a bit expensive.$1695. for prado rear,but no compressor,hoseing, or air leakes to give problems.
                  I would never fit one of these to my vehicle, we have to suffer them fitted to many of our work vehicles, have so many failures (although I should qualify this by saying we do have some rough operators) - some trucks are on their 4th or 5th centre. They are a pig to drive on the the tar, around a roundabout they constantly lock and unlock causing the truck to almost change directions mid curve.

                  IMNSHO


                  Cheers

                  Adrian
                  Silver '04 KZJ120~Manual~GXL~Dobinson/Kings lift~Custom valved Ironmans~Detroit Locker~Endless Air~X9 Superwinch~Madman EMS1~TJM Dual Battery~Rhino Roof Tray~120W solar panel~Foxwing awning~Bushskinz UVP~Long Ranger water tank~Bushman fridge~Steinbauer P-Box~Beaudesert 2 3/4"~Airtec Snorkel~TJM Sliders~Prico Boost Gauge~BFG-KO2s~TPMS~GME TX3420~Front and Rear Cameras~Ultimate Camper hanging off the back!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Eaton E,locker

                    Originally posted by adrian5800
                    Originally posted by way/bel
                    Has any body looked, seen, or read about the new eaton e locker sold buy Harrop Eng. Advert in 4x4 aus mag.Look good, but a bit expensive.$1695. for prado rear,but no compressor,hoseing, or air leakes to give problems.
                    I would never fit one of these to my vehicle, we have to suffer them fitted to many of our work vehicles, have so many failures (although I should qualify this by saying we do have some rough operators) - some trucks are on their 4th or 5th centre. They are a pig to drive on the the tar, around a roundabout they constantly lock and unlock causing the truck to almost change directions mid curve.

                    IMNSHO


                    Cheers

                    Adrian
                    Sounds like you are talking about an auto locker Adrian, not an E locker. They only come on when you flick the switch.
                    White 2013 GXL 79 series dual cab, ARB GVM Upgrade, ARB Delux winch bar and scrub bars, GME TX3440 and much more to come

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                    • #25
                      Re: Eaton E,locker

                      [quote=two+four]
                      Originally posted by adrian5800
                      Originally posted by "way/bel":nic6j2xh
                      Has any body looked, seen, or read about the new eaton e locker sold buy Harrop Eng. Advert in 4x4 aus mag.Look good, but a bit expensive.$1695. for prado rear,but no compressor,hoseing, or air leakes to give problems.
                      I would never fit one of these to my vehicle, we have to suffer them fitted to many of our work vehicles, have so many failures (although I should qualify this by saying we do have some rough operators) - some trucks are on their 4th or 5th centre. They are a pig to drive on the the tar, around a roundabout they constantly lock and unlock causing the truck to almost change directions mid curve.

                      IMNSHO


                      Cheers

                      Adrian
                      Sounds like you are talking about an auto locker Adrian, not an E locker. They only come on when you flick the switch.[/quote:nic6j2xh]

                      Yep you're correct, some of our trucks are fitted with Detroit Lockers not E-Lockers but Detroit Lockers were mentioned in this thread. E-Lockers look the goods to me.

                      Cheers

                      Adrian
                      Silver '04 KZJ120~Manual~GXL~Dobinson/Kings lift~Custom valved Ironmans~Detroit Locker~Endless Air~X9 Superwinch~Madman EMS1~TJM Dual Battery~Rhino Roof Tray~120W solar panel~Foxwing awning~Bushskinz UVP~Long Ranger water tank~Bushman fridge~Steinbauer P-Box~Beaudesert 2 3/4"~Airtec Snorkel~TJM Sliders~Prico Boost Gauge~BFG-KO2s~TPMS~GME TX3420~Front and Rear Cameras~Ultimate Camper hanging off the back!

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                      • #26
                        You sure on this one ?? My mate has 120 06VX auto and says it has LSD but been a VX it come with stability and traction as standard ?? and Im sure last time he changed the diff oil he siad it had a tag indicating LSD. I know 100% my 90 series grande auto turbo diesel with traction and stability did as firstly it had a tag on the refill point and also when I jacked it up both wheels also turned the same way......... http://www.redbook.com.au/cars/resea...Ridx=26&eapi=2 Cheers Steve
                        Face lift 150 Prado V6 auto. No mods yet

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                        • #27
                          The VSC performs the function of an LSD for the front and back. If the centre diff is locked, you lose this functionality.
                          2019 GXL, Bullbar, UHF, Redarc Brake Controller, Tow Bar, Secondary Fuel Filter

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                          • #28
                            The VSC is stability control, it doesnt perform the function of an LSD. The traction control is what will get you through or up/over some thing. Yes when you lock the centre diff lock it turns the VSC off but not the traction control, on the 90's and the 120's you cannot turn off the traction control unless you pull the fuse which will then leave a code so not worth the hassle, the 150's you can turn both off if needed which is a great idea. If by locking centre diff lock and driving on sand you dont want the VSC if your cornering as it will take the power away which is what you dont want on sand (same as traction control can do, pain in the arse) BUT would still be handy if driving on dirt roads and want that extra stability at higher speeds and you got a bit side ways or tail happy it would pull you back in line but at the end of the day you just back off and drive to the conditions. And dont forget people think they have full traction because its AWD, if you were to go off road and got say the left front wheel in the air all the power will go to that one wheel so your stuck. if you lock the centre diff lock then its 50/50 so with both rear wheels on the ground it will get you through, if your crossed up diagonally then your screwed thats where a locker would be great.Cheers Steve
                            Face lift 150 Prado V6 auto. No mods yet

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                            • #29
                              I am also looking at an E locker as I'm not having much luck getting a decent price on an air locker!
                              Cheers, Brad
                              2007 GXL, Dune, D4D 6 speed manual. Satnav, towbar, Sahara Bullbar, Bridgestone D697's, Cargo Barrier, Stebel Truck Horn, Couplertec Rust Protection, Safari Snorkel, Polyair airbags, Blue Narva 175's, VMS Touring 700HDsII, GME TX3340, Tough Dog 2" lift with adjustable shocks, ARB rear air locker.

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                              • #30
                                Hi Braddo, did you end up gettin an elocker and if so are you happy with it

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