Stats on injector problems with the 1KD-FTV.

[D4D]

Holy crap Sefo, do you know what servo it was, can you get a fuel sample?

[Sefo]

Initial Problem, black smoke on cold start.

Just got the car back from toyota, the car is under extended factory warranty (the car is 5 1/2 years old but within the extended factory warrany period) they say it's dirty fuel, they pulled out the tanks and checked the fuel pod, yes it was dirty. Now that's its fuel which has caused the problem toyota extra care wont cover it. Toyota have had my car for about 8 hours, testing and pulling it apart and they didn't charge me a $ for all that work. Why is that? They then gave me a quote to fix the problem of $12,000. replacing injectors and everything associated.

[ROB83R]

A good mate is a Toyota tech.

[Whitey1]

So you got 4 new injectors including labour for $2500? Where'd youget that done?

[ROB83R]

Ok
145000
4 new injectors, latest DLC blue top type.
New zinc seals

When the reflash was done the injectors were reading fine except for number 1 which was +3.0
3 months later the rattle was worse than ever.
All seals were leaking with 1 and 4 being the worst with some bad build up.
After programming the new injectors in they were reading
0.4
0.4
1.0
0.4

Cost was $2250 plus $250 labour.

[Hughda]

At 112,000 and nearly 5 years I am having a new set of injectors put in. Been suffering from the chaff-cutter noise and blowing smoke during warm-up, but only since the weather got colder.

[Sefo]

thanks for that. I've been doing to reading and what you suggest may all that is required. I might run some Diesel Power through, do a bit of other cleaning aswell.

[KalGXL]

can some one set me straight are the injectors failing because the seals are leaking and damaging the injectors in the process or are the leaking seals a different issue to injectors going out of range and falling and if a leaking seal is repaired early enough does it save the injector from damage as mine has just started the cold rattles at 135kms and im wondering if im up for new injectors and seals or just seals
Cheers

[t303]

If the tanks are full of algae and it has got through to the injectors, shouldn't the filter be full of it too? Much easier just to cut open a filter.

[Sefo]

I recently noticed black smoke from the exhaust on a cold start, I've taken it to Toyota and 4 days later they has discovered that one of the injectors isn't working properly. I brought an extended warranty when I got the car and it's still in warranty. Toyota Extra Care want them to check the fuel tanks to see if there is algie in the tanks. They reckon it's most likely dirty fuel which has caused the problem, they say that because then it's not covered under warranty (AR#$$*&&#). Anyway they gave the car back to me and told me to bring it back when the tanks were low so it would be easier to take the tanks out and take photos of the tank to check for algie. They quoted me $11,000 to fix it. Got to be joking please.

[frederick]

Update gents, have hooked up the caravan (2.3 tonne) and headed to Kingaroy for the night then onto dalby, roma, tennant creek then DARWIN Kakado and thereabouts over the next several months.
Since getting the injectors replaced have noticed a big improvement in towing capabilities as vehicle seems happy now chugging a long rather than struggling like before. Fuel usage seems less thus far but will report exact numbers once tank has been refilled and trip meter reset. No nasty marbles rattling around in the engine on the cold mornings now and car idles smoother. It cost just under $4k but money well spent.

[Whitey1]

Did an oil change yesterday on mine and had a look up the drain hole with just a torch. Found I could see the screen pretty well without a probe camera. Looked clean to me.
But I have the cold run rattle so I looks like its new injectors for me.
Hoping Toyota will come to the party for me but wont hold my breath. Taking it to Bridge Toyota in Darwin.
Dec 07 model
6 speed manual
105000 km

[frederick]

Greetings to all, just had the new injector codes entered and the ECU reflashed at Torque Toyota Brendale, job took all of 30 minutes and cost $130.00. Anyway they also picked up that the recall on the bull bar chassis mounts had not been completed so have booked that one for Next Monday. No difference in performance on the drive home but once i hook up the caravan i will soon know at least i have peace of mind now with new injectors and a clean sump screen i can enjoy my trip away.

Wazza (frederick)

[Landuser]

Oil Pickup Screen Inspection Prado Hilux D4D Clean or Clogged?

On behalf of Wazza AKA Frederick I am posting a photo of his Prado's oil pump screen taken with a $99 Aldi camera. It demonstrates that the cheap Aldi camera does provide an acceptable image. It shows too that his oil pump screen is perfectly clean. Wazza used his iPhone to take a photo of the Aldi monitor so degradation of the image has occurred.

Glenn

G'day Glen (sacred cow), That is a great pic Glen. Thats what we want to see. I wish all the screens looked that good, but it is good to see the problem is not evident of every engine!

At least you know you are totally OK and that this check can be done easily & cheaply. If dealers do the same at service time on all the D4D engines, then a lot of people are going to be saved some big headaches if they do see a dirty screen, and can act before blockage kills their D4D engine.

To ignore this issue can be a disaster, so the dealers need proper guidance from Toyota on that score.

Good on you for doing the check off your own bat and having full confidence in your D4D engine now.

You may have already mentioned it but what is your mileage & vehicle year?

Landuser

[sacred cow]

On behalf of Wazza AKA Frederick I am posting a photo of his Prado's oil pump screen taken with a $99 Aldi camera. It demonstrates that the cheap Aldi camera does provide an acceptable image. It shows too that his oil pump screen is perfectly clean. Wazza used his iPhone to take a photo of the Aldi monitor so degradation of the image has occurred.

Glenn