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    Vehicle - Prado KDJ120R

    I live on a rural property and have recently been subject to a plague of rats.

    Some rats have found their way into the cabin air delivery system - I found a baited dead one in the cabin air filter tray behind the glove box. There have also been a number inside the RHS wheel arch.

    I can't locate any air ducting on the engine side of the firewall. Can anyone provide advice on where these foul creatures might be entering the cabin air delivery system from outside the vehicle?

    Thanks.

  • #2
    The black plastic trim that starts at the windscreen and goes under the bonnet is where the A/C draws from.

    Perhaps start there, remove and inspect.
    Cheers
    Micheal.

    2008 GXL D4D Auto. GOING... GOING... GONE
    2015 GXL 1GD Auto. And it begins again...

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    • #3
      Thanks for the response, 120D4D. That was No1 of the list of suspects. However, I thought there might be others that are worth looking at when I begin to dismantle things. Do you know if there are any tricks/traps when removing the black air intake trim?

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      • #4
        I feel your pain. Keep an eye on the electrical components in the engine bay, namely the wiring. They love chewing through to the copper.

        Good luck.
        2007 Update 120 D4D, GXL Auto Option Pack 1 - ARB winch bar, ARB UVP, ARB tradesman rack, 2" OME, Safari Snorkel, HR towbar, Tigerz11 12000lb Grande, IPF 900 Extreme, W602C, Hilux Scoop
        My Build [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?28720-Jamie-s-Prado-120-D4D[/url]

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        • #5
          Thanks Jamieprado. The pain is mainly centred in the nostrils. I have been keeping an eye on the looms, etc. They seem to have a taste for the rubber caps on various reservoir vessels (eg brakes) - both on the tractor and the Tojo. That's a bit easier to deal with rather than electricals shorting out.

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          • #6
            Have a good look at the looms though, you may end up with some weird random electrical issues. Had a coupel of wires in the Corolado chewed through and didn't know until wet weather. We bought that from west of the Great Divide. Tracked down the missing bits and new wire and solder and silicone did the job.
            My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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            • #7
              For anyone who is interested - how vermin can get into your cabin air filter/fan assembly:

              There is an oval shaped hole on the vertical body sheet metal on both LHS and RHS of the wiper motor recess that allows rats/mice to get access straight into the cabin air filter/fan assembly. These holes can only be seen when the plastic cabin air intake grille at the base of the windscreen is removed.

              It seems that rats/mice can get inside the filter/fan unit via the front wheel arch panel, then by crawling through the holes mentioned above and climbing over a sheet metal dam that prevents water from entering the filter/fan assembly. Then by shredding the cabin air filter and dragging in leaves, etc they can make a really comfy little nest.

              Consequently, when you poison them and they die in their nest, you get a delicious blast of fresh "eau de dead rat" straight off the fan. If the rat is still extant, you will only get the smell of stale rat piss.

              Solution - small bird wire panels to block off the oval holes and another larger panel over the top of the water dam. The wire over the water dam may also prevent leaves, etc getting into the filter/fan unit.

              Thank you everyone for your responses.

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              • #8
                Electrical Damage to Prado from Rats

                A few nights ago, at a lodge in the mountains behind Mossman, the alarm went off on our Prado at 3:00 am. After waking all and sundry, I eventually got the alarm to stop by starting the car, but the instrument panel was showing a constant stream of error messages. Having started the car, I couldn’t get it to stop so I drove a short distance away to allow people to sleep and got an RACQ guy out of bed. The car continued idling for an hour until he arrived, and he could only stop it by removing fuses.

                Next day, the vehicle was towed to the nearest Toyota dealer. They said that they get a few similar occurrences each year (all Prados) but ours was the best (or worst) yet. When they started the car to move it into an inspection bay, the car wouldn’t stop even when the battery was disconnected. They said the stench was terrible when they found the rat nest behind the glove box & over the air-conditioner unit. Lots of wires damaged and insulation chewed off. VERY expensive fix – still underway. Comprehensive insurance policy won’t cover rat damage. One bloke’s unproven theory is that the insulation used on some Prados is “rice-based” and the rats love to eat it??? We are quite concerned about what would have happened if the failure occurred when we were driving on a highway.

                I’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar incident?

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                • #9
                  Mate on farm has same issue with vehicles has LED light under the bottom or leaves bonnet up or both they don’t like light. Has not had any issues since.
                  2009 120TD Auto, Snorkel, Tow, Soveriegn Bull Bar, Dual Batteries, Rear Suspension Air Bags, UHF, Toyo Open Country Tyre AT II,, ScanGauge

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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Opened the bonnet a week ago to see the brown dust from the bonnet insulation all over the engine cover... Wouldn't you know it rats had set up shop under in the bonnet! Even saw the cheeky f***** run out of there. Pulled the insulation off the cover I figure it doesn't do much anyway. I guess they like the cavities there for the intercooler ducting. But then today I can hear them in the roof lining!! Threw some baits up there and a snap trap in the boot so I'll see how it goes. I got them early at least so fingers crossed they don't do much damage. Definitely something to be on the look out for especially if it's just a weekender type car. I've always hated rats.. Now I hate them more.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Driverover25 View Post
                        For anyone who is interested - how vermin can get into your cabin air filter/fan assembly:

                        There is an oval shaped hole on the vertical body sheet metal on both LHS and RHS of the wiper motor recess that allows rats/mice to get access straight into the cabin air filter/fan assembly. These holes can only be seen when the plastic cabin air intake grille at the base of the windscreen is removed.

                        It seems that rats/mice can get inside the filter/fan unit via the front wheel arch panel, then by crawling through the holes mentioned above and climbing over a sheet metal dam that prevents water from entering the filter/fan assembly. Then by shredding the cabin air filter and dragging in leaves, etc they can make a really comfy little nest.

                        Consequently, when you poison them and they die in their nest, you get a delicious blast of fresh "eau de dead rat" straight off the fan. If the rat is still extant, you will only get the smell of stale rat piss.

                        Solution - small bird wire panels to block off the oval holes and another larger panel over the top of the water dam. The wire over the water dam may also prevent leaves, etc getting into the filter/fan unit.

                        Thank you everyone for your responses.
                        This is great advice. If there's any chance of rats getting near your 120 this is well worth doing as well as a few baits hiding in the engine bay. I made up a steel mesh grill to go over the metal cover for the cabin filter. Very easy job.

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