Any recommendation for the 1GD-FTV engine oil and oil filter?

[joejoejoejoe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close joejoejoejoe]

Hi all,

I may need to do an extra service by myself before next schedule service. Now I am looking for some great engine oil, any recommendation for me? I do a lot of city drive, I mean, a lot, a lot, a lot of city driving. And how about the oil filter? Or just buy one from the dealer, which cost around 25 bucks? Thanks very much!

Cheers,
Joe

Update: I purchased the Penrite 0w-30 C2 oil, cos this is the only one of the two 0w-30 C2 DPF diesel engine oil in the market (the other one is Shell Helix 0w-30, labeled C2/C3). The oil now looks good except the morning start, it will be very very noisy. I think I will switch it back to Shell Helix 0w-30 after Penrite. I am just wondering why there is no Castrol 0w-30 C2 oil in the market. And, in the manual, it specifically says the engine oil has to be C2. What if I use Castrol 5w-30 C3?

[tempestv8 Member Find all posts View Profile Close tempestv8]

Re the filter element, whilst you are still under warranty, there is no point in buying an aftermarket filter - if ever you needed to make a warranty claim on fuel system related components, e.g. pump, injectors, etc. your claim might get rejected on the grounds of improper filtration of fuel from the use of an aftermarket filter. Buy only genuine filters, and only from your Toyota dealership, as there are fake filters out there with Toyota looking packaging. Don't cheap out on the filter!

Re engine oil just buy whatever you can get which meets the spec - i.e. the spec calls for DPF compatible engine oil so be sure that whatever brand of oil you chose, it's not going to contaminate your DPF. You can use the lube guide from various oil vendor's websites.

[Kaukapakapa Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Kaukapakapa]

Best to keep to all Toyota filter and oil under warranty, i have a new engine coming under warranty (just ask Cam Jam)

[joejoejoejoe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close joejoejoejoe]

Best to keep to all Toyota filter and oil under warranty, i have a new engine coming under warranty (just ask Cam Jam)

What happens of your engine?

[brogers Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close brogers]

Whilst the car is under warranty its just as easy to stay with genuine filters.. but after the warranty expires the Ryco filters seem very popular and are guaranteed to meet the standards, and there is even a new Long life Ryco oil filter, but to be honest, with the exhaust gas re-circulation, where engine oil soots up quickly, and the fact that with any sort of "out of the ordinary" driving conditions (off-roading, towing, dirt roads, stop start etc) requires shortened oil change intervals, I'd consider the standard Ryco oil and air filters after the warranty is expired, and change oil & filter at approx 5000 km intervals. You can indeed use Ryco filters during the warranty period, but personally I dont bother, as I dont want to have an argument should something go wrong with the engine during the warranty.

Have a look at the owners manual as well, and you'll see that engine oil not only needs to be DPF compatible, but it also needs to meet the "C2" oil standard...so be careful when choosing engine oil.
Toyota "branded" oil, which is blended and packaged in Australia and labelled with a toyota label, and it is 0W30 grade...but depending on where you drive, and especially in summer, and as the engine gets some miles on it, you could go to a 5W 40 grade oil, provided its also shown as meeting the "C2" standard.

You can look at the oil specification finder on some of the oil manufacturers websites, or better still, you can call the oil technical advisers from the suppliers to discuss oil selection, I found them very helpful.

https://www.penriteoil.com.au/product-selector

Penrite list this engine oil:
Enviro+ C2 is a Premium Full Synthetic, SAE 0W-30 engine oil.


The Castrol and Caltex product selection sites do not list a product but rather direct you to the dealer or their technical advice line.

[prodoco Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close prodoco]

I will stick with Toyota genuine synthetic oil C2 0W30 for sure even after warranty period, $75 for 5L - reasonable pricing.

[Kaukapakapa Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Kaukapakapa]

Is using about 1-1.4L of oil every 10,000km also Toyota sold me A3/B4 oil to top it up not C2 oil

[brogers Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close brogers]

$75 for 5 liters is not really that reasonable I recon, thats $15 per liter. I go for a 10 or 20 liter container of Penrite C2 0w30 on special, and you can occasionally get it for less than $10 per liter.

[EddieF Member Find all posts View Profile Close EddieF]

If you are doing a one off interim oil and filter change, I don't think you can go far wrong as long as it meets the specification requirements. Assuming you are normally getting it serviced by Toyota why not contact the service centre and ask what they use. I know there is Toyota labelled oil available, but I don't think the service centres use it. I think they source suppliers themselves. Have a look at the sticker they put on the windscreen with the next due service and I bet there is a good chance it is a Valvoline or Mobil sticker.

[CamJam Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CamJam]

Best to keep to all Toyota filter and oil under warranty, i have a new engine coming under warranty (just ask Cam Jam)

Hell yes!!!!

But if you have to go your own way - there are A LOT of DPF friendly oils out there, but not many meet the C2 Specification. Just ensure yours does, and perhaps keep receipts (I take a photo of all my receipts and just dump them on my hard drive or cloud somewhere I can search for them - then I can throw the paper out).

[wanted Member Find all posts View Profile Close wanted]

Is using about 1-1.4L of oil every 10,000km also Toyota sold me A3/B4 oil to top it up not C2 oil

So I assume you have DPF fitted engine.

[Kaukapakapa Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Kaukapakapa]

Yes engine has a DPF

[Faulco Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Faulco]

Hi Kaukapakapa, the A3/B4 and C2 are ACEA classifications. A/B oils are not suitable for vehicles with a DPF. C2 oil is specified by Toyota for the 2.8 1GD engine. When I took my Prado back to get the DPF attended to the first question they asked me was "have you been using a C2 oil?" The following extract is from an excellent article by Penrite, Understanding Engine Oil. You'll find the full article here https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets...ngine_Oils.pdf

ACEA stands for Association des Constructuers Européens de l Automobile. This classification system is the European equivalent of the API classification system, but is stricter and has more severe requirements. Hence an oil that meets both API and ACEA specifications uses a better additive package than one that is designed to meet only API specifications. Unlike the API, ACEA has three main groups A/B for gasoline and light duty (passenger car, 4WD etc) diesel engines, C for light duty three way catalyst (TWC) and Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) compatible oils, usually low and mid SAPS (Sulphated Ash Phosphorus Sulphur) and E for heavy duty diesel engines.

[joejoejoejoe Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close joejoejoejoe]

Hi Kaukapakapa, the A3/B4 and C2 are ACEA classifications. A/B oils are not suitable for vehicles with a DPF. C2 oil is specified by Toyota for the 2.8 1GD engine. When I took my Prado back to get the DPF attended to the first question they asked me was "have you been using a C2 oil?" The following extract is from an excellent article by Penrite, Understanding Engine Oil. You'll find the full article here https://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets...ngine_Oils.pdf

ACEA stands for Association des Constructuers Européens de l Automobile. This classification system is the European equivalent of the API classification system, but is stricter and has more severe requirements. Hence an oil that meets both API and ACEA specifications uses a better additive package than one that is designed to meet only API specifications. Unlike the API, ACEA has three main groups A/B for gasoline and light duty (passenger car, 4WD etc) diesel engines, C for light duty three way catalyst (TWC) and Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) compatible oils, usually low and mid SAPS (Sulphated Ash Phosphorus Sulphur) and E for heavy duty diesel engines.

C2 is the major problem. All the diesel engine oil in the market are C3. I checked online, there is not much different between C2 and C3. But according to the user manual, it states that C2 is the only engine oil we can choose. Using the oil other then C2, will "destroy" your catalytic converter. But the problem is, we do have DPF, we don't have catalytic converter, is that right?

[nudgebar Member Find all posts View Profile Close nudgebar]

we do have a catalytic converter , it sits in front of the DPF , within the same housing. refer to Emissions Control in here - http://toyota-club.net/files/faq/15-...engine_eng.htm