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  • #91
    Hope all goes well , can't wait to fit them and get out there

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    • #92
      Originally posted by 404pug View Post
      Hey Mark. just curious as to how those struts are adjusted. I can see that there is a bit to be turned. Can this be done on car? Loaded or unloaded? How does it lock into position? When we get them will they be pre-assembled like those in the photo with new top hats etc? Neil
      Hey pug,

      They work just like any other height adjustable strut, there are two locking rings underneath the coil seat. You undo the bottom one, then wind the top one up until you get the ride height you want. Then you lock the bottom ring against the top one. You can do it on the Prado, unloaded wheel off at full droop, you'll just need to undo the swaybar and pull it up and out of the way. Just remember that the distance you wind up on the strut is x2 out at the wheel.

      You'll need the Ironman c-spanner to do the adjusting.

      I can supply the entire strut pre-assembled with new strut caps. If you prefer to use your old cap then you'll need to disassemble your old gear with amts recipe, reassemble with new Ironmans;

      http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthr...ade-for-Grande

      Best

      Mark
      2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mkeech View Post
        Hope all goes well , can't wait to fit them and get out there
        Hey,

        Got the new struts in today, first test drive on-road this arvo, I could feel the extra low-speed critical damping immediately, less nose dive under braking, and definitely less squat (which is what the low velocity damping was originally to do), so the additional low speed rebound has worked the way I wanted it to.

        Whacked them over some gutters, very nice on compression, feels nicer than my old D563's.

        Off-road test will come soon!

        Best

        Mark
        2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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        • #94
          Thanks Mark. Looking good. This marshmellow 150 can sure use some help!

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          • #95
            Hi , considering similarities between FJ Cruiser and Prado would this group buy be suitable for an FJ owner like myself? Large volume locally supported hydraulic shock could be a great option - i have looked into Koni Raids which these resemble (with added adjustment and better lift height ).

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Sumodog View Post
              Hi , considering similarities between FJ Cruiser and Prado would this group buy be suitable for an FJ owner like myself? Large volume locally supported hydraulic shock could be a great option - i have looked into Koni Raids which these resemble (with added adjustment and better lift height ).
              Hey Sumodog,

              The Ironman Pros I have designed will go straight into an FJ. I've already invited anyone from FJCC who is interested to join the group buy. There are already a few from FJCC on the pre group buy list!

              The Ironman Pros are better than the RAIDS in both length and valving terms.

              A comparison between the front struts;

              Ironman 45710FE

              65mm body
              45mm piston head
              20mm shaft
              565mm open length

              Koni 88-1712

              55mm body
              36mm piston head
              16mm shaft
              548mm open length (shortest after market strut length known)

              The Ironman Pros also hold more oil and run cooler than the RAIDS.

              Hope this helps!

              Best

              Mark
              2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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              • #97
                Hey Mark. I printed off amts method long ago in anticipation of this group buy and in case I got stuck in the desert with a buggered front shock [not needed thankfully with the OMEs on my 120 still fine with 90000on them when I sold it]. Neil

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Whitey View Post
                  Hey Sumodog,

                  The Ironman Pros I have designed will go straight into an FJ. I've already invited anyone from FJCC who is interested to join the group buy. There are already a few from FJCC on the pre group buy list!

                  The Ironman Pros are better than the RAIDS in both length and valving terms.

                  A comparison between the front struts;

                  Ironman 45710FE

                  65mm body
                  45mm piston head
                  20mm shaft
                  565mm open length

                  Koni 88-1712

                  55mm body
                  36mm piston head
                  16mm shaft
                  548mm open length (shortest after market strut length known)

                  The Ironman Pros also hold more oil and run cooler than the RAIDS.

                  Hope this helps!

                  Best

                  Mark
                  Thank you Mark

                  I am in if thats ok :-) - now to decide on springs .

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by 404pug View Post
                    Hey Mark. I printed off amts method long ago in anticipation of this group buy and in case I got stuck in the desert with a buggered front shock [not needed thankfully with the OMEs on my 120 still fine with 90000on them when I sold it]. Neil
                    Hey,

                    When I'm doing remote travel, I always take fully assembled struts. It's much easier to swap struts in and out this way rather than trying to disassemble the strut in the middle of nowhere!

                    Good quality struts/coils/strut caps are so cheap now, it's cheap insurance to carry assembled spares!

                    Best

                    Mark
                    2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                    • Originally posted by Sumodog View Post
                      Thank you Mark

                      I am in if thats ok :-) - now to decide on springs .
                      Hey Sumo,

                      I've added you to the unofficial pre group buy list, you're number 15!

                      Coil wise, around 670lb/in up front and 280lb/in rear will work best with the custom valving.

                      Quite a few free height options for those rates, Ironman, King, Dobinsons all have coils that will work well, just depends on what lift you're chasing! Have a squiz at the PP suspension database for some options;

                      http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthr...nsion-Database

                      Best

                      Mark
                      2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                      • Originally posted by Whitey View Post
                        Hey Sumo,

                        I've added you to the unofficial pre group buy list, you're number 15!
                        Being a software engineer, I cannot miss a chance to be number 16, so Mark please add me in! One question though, the Simpson trip is 3 months away, can I hope to get the struts before that?

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                        • Originally posted by FJSA View Post
                          Being a software engineer, I cannot miss a chance to be number 16, so Mark please add me in! One question though, the Simpson trip is 3 months away, can I hope to get the struts before that?
                          Hey FJSA,

                          Still got a running PDP-11 in my old lab!!

                          16 it is!

                          You'll definitely have them on well before your Simpson trip! I'll have the struts field tested hopefully this weekend and get the long awaited group buy up and running!

                          Best

                          Mark
                          2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                          • Originally posted by Whitey View Post
                            You'll definitely have them on well before your Simpson trip! I'll have the struts field tested hopefully this weekend and get the long awaited group buy up and running!
                            That would be awesome, thanks Mark! Another question please. You mentioned earlier that you are going to space your struts down to 570, what did you actually mean? The use of a spacer in the top seat or increase in open length?

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                            • Originally posted by FJSA View Post
                              That would be awesome, thanks Mark! Another question please. You mentioned earlier that you are going to space your struts down to 570, what did you actually mean? The use of a spacer in the top seat or increase in open length?
                              Hey,

                              I didn't bother spacing them (increasing open length) as I didn't have anything handy, so I threw the struts in at 565mm open.

                              You could add in a 5mm shaft spacer on top of the shroud spacer....but you will chew a few mm into your bumpstop safety margin, because the IFS bumpstop works at a slightly higher than 1:1 motion ratio, around 1.17:1, see here;

                              http://www.pradopoint.com.au/showthr...-120-Prado-IFS

                              The maximum safe closed length is around 435mm (100% bumpstop protection), the 45710 closed is 433mm, so you'll pop over by a few mm if you space it to 570mm open. Safest thing to do is then to space your bumpstop to ensure you still have 100% protection. Solid coil is well below 100% bumpstop compression, so you need to be careful otherwise you do run the risk of bottoming out.

                              Simplest thing to do is leave them at 565mm, which is still heaps of open length!

                              Best

                              Mark
                              2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                              • Originally posted by Whitey View Post
                                Simplest thing to do is leave them at 565mm, which is still heaps of open length!
                                That's what I thought too. However, to squeeze a bit more from the IFS I would probably increase the open length to 570. It's a good number even for stock UCAs and no diff drop is required.

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