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Would same lift kits work for NG GXL Prado's?
Has anyone just used the lift blocks? Do they work ok?
Has anyone just used the lift blocks? Do they work ok?
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Not necessarily as easy as it seems ( this is on a 120 )
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What would be the position with Toyota on warranty claims on a body lifted 150 ?Cheers, Wayne -
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Did you mean 'body lift' or 'suspension lift'? Two totally different lifts, one legal and the other illegal on anything with airbags.Originally posted by ozwapet2[url=http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=12264]My Prado[/url]Comment
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Originally posted by D4D
You're right, reading it again, what he seems to be asking is "will a 120 suspension lift kit work on a 150"
When I saw "lift blocks" my mind went to body lifts, but he probably means putting spacers above the springs.
I'll bow our quietly now.
Cheers, WayneComment
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Hi guys, sorry for confusion. I just ment the spaces that go above the springs not a body lift. I like the look of the lift kits but worried about how it would ride with different suspension, and if we had to wait for new lift kits that suit 150's or if 120's would fit. Spaces would be cheaper whilst keeping same suspension?Originally posted by ozwapet2Originally posted by D4D
You're right, reading it again, what he seems to be asking is "will a 120 suspension lift kit work on a 150"
When I saw "lift blocks" my mind went to body lifts, but he probably means putting spacers above the springs.
I'll bow our quietly now.Comment
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From my quick look under a 150 I would imagine the 120 springs and struts would be a straight fit (that's without me taking a tape measure to anything). Both models share the same chassis and suspension design. The only difference being the KDSS if you have it, it's not an issue, it's just the installer needs to be aware of the bleeding/set up procedure after the new gear goes in. (There is info on this on the LCOOL website.)and if we had to wait for new lift kits that suit 150's or if 120's would fit. Spaces would be cheaper whilst keeping same suspension?
Spring and strut spacers are a good option if you're on a budget and don't have accessories fitted or carry a load. These will set you back $200-300 (as opposed to around $1000 and up for new shocks/springs.)
In the front a strut top spacer is very effective as you will retain the full travel of the strut (assuming you don't reach the limits of something else first). Avoid the captive spacers (the one that go between the spring seat and strut), these are OK for "Trimming" the heights (small adjustments to level a vehicle) but trying to do a 2inch lift and you'll find the strut travel very limited.
In the rear it's a little different. You'll lose downward travel (by the same amount as the thickness of the spacer) unless you change to a longer shock. Depending on what type of off roading you do they may or may not be a problem for you.
Using spacers alone to lift a vehicle will obviously keep the factory spring rates and damping and provide the same ride as from the factory. However raising the centre of gravity has some adverse effects on body roll in corners and wallowing on undulating ground.
Personally I’d say the preferred method is to save up your cash and do a spring/damper change to achieve a lift and improved handling and save the spacers for fine tuning the height.
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Thanks for the well explained detailed answer
I'm in two minds whether to upgrade my 2008 prado now or keep it a bit longer. If i was to lift my current 120 was hoping i could transfer the lift to to 150 in a year or so. Sounds like i can but i'll double check with manufactures. Now just choosing what brand.........................................Comment
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There's are few threads in the 120 forum about max height on lifts ( downtravel on IFS etc ) - I suspect the reasons are the same for the 150.
Anyway you'll probably find what's quoted as 40 mm will be 50mm or even more for a while ( till it settles ). The 50mm guy is probably quoting a pre-settled number or firmer springs, and wow what a price difference for the same kit, are you sure ?
More important to get your firmness and damper rates right than amount of lift ( IMHO ).
Did you talk to Darren McRae ?
oh....forget Pedders they're shockers ( excuse the pun)
..and you might find some tyre stealers wont fit those size tyres, due to legality issues/mismatch with the placard, ( but then by your location you're an automotive engineer so can you do a cert for them ?)Cheers, WayneComment
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I spoke to ARB during the week and they are still reviewing the modifications required to the OME suspension for the 150 series. Apparently the 150 series is only rated for a 500kg payload, which isn't much in a 7 seater with 150 litres of fuel on board. With their redesign, the installation of the suspension will come with an upgrade of the GVM (same as what they have done on the 200 series cruiser) c/w dept. transport mod plates. Don't know to what capacity, but at least you might be able to carry some gear? Food for thought.
I've got OME suspension on a 2008 GXL and it has been great, no complaints. So pick up the 150 series this Friday, just have to wait for all the gear to come available from ARB, etc.Comment
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From memory this change in suspension for an uprated GVM must be done prior to initial registration, It cannot be done afterwards.Originally posted by chickaComment
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Very nice.
So has anyone heard when ARB will be releasing a bar?Thanks,
Adam
2010 ZR 150
1987 Range Rover UteComment
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Certainly does look better with a lift and BFG's, bring on the ARB bar!!![b]Rob[/b]
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Hi All,
We have taken a number of measurements off the 150 Series to compare to the 120 Series and have found some slight differences in many components; not enough to stop you from fitting 120 parts but they may not be perfect. We have changed they fitmnent of our product slightly when compared to the 120, due to these differences, to get it as correct as possible; this may the be same for other suspension compaines.Comment
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ABR
Thats a great morph
Really shows the core bodyframe is fundamentally changed very little. Also the departure angle looks to have been improved.
Roof racks look like direct carryover items so roof racks would be the same.
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Looks great ABR!
A lift and some decent rubber makes soooo much difference to the overall look of the rig! My initial impressions have definitely changed now!
I think you better start a rig build-up thread!
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