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  • #61
    Yes, Sunchaser, I have a 4cm lift. I noticed the rounding seems to match the offset lugs. Probably exposing the outside lugs more.

    Here is a pic of a new tyre, followed by my worst worn one as explanation. I think the wear only goes in as far as the inset lugs.

    Corigator
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    Last edited by Corigator; 20-10-2016, 02:15 PM.
    Greg - 08 D4D Prado,
    Some trips done - Cape York, Fraser Island, Simpson Desert / Central Aust, Vic High Country.

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    • #62
      Thanks mate, will have to keep investigating this one I think.....
      [B]Cheers Gary[B]
      [I]White 150 V6 GXL: TJM bullbar, ARB Intensity LED spotties, ICOM 440 UHF CB, ARB 2" OME lift kit, Tracklander roof rack, ABR Sidewinder alternator fuse, dual battery system, two 40L Engels, ORS fridge slide, solar regulator, 3rd row seats removed and ORS twin drawers with Autosafe cargo barrier, ARB twin motor air compressor [/I][/B][/B]

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      • #63
        I edited my above post to show the wear on my worst tyre, just so we know what I'm talking about. I think its what I would expect at 40,000 km.
        Greg - 08 D4D Prado,
        Some trips done - Cape York, Fraser Island, Simpson Desert / Central Aust, Vic High Country.

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        • #64
          Ok so I think I've found the problem of wear on the outside only of my tyres.

          For any one else who may have the same issue, it seems to be a camber issue. More specifically a "positive camber" from my 2" lift which means the wheels are tilted outwards slightly, hence causing prematiure wear on the outside of the tyres.

          Will contact ARB at a future date and discuss adjusting camber correction pin by a couple of degrees towards a negative camber.

          Cheers Gaz
          [B]Cheers Gary[B]
          [I]White 150 V6 GXL: TJM bullbar, ARB Intensity LED spotties, ICOM 440 UHF CB, ARB 2" OME lift kit, Tracklander roof rack, ABR Sidewinder alternator fuse, dual battery system, two 40L Engels, ORS fridge slide, solar regulator, 3rd row seats removed and ORS twin drawers with Autosafe cargo barrier, ARB twin motor air compressor [/I][/B][/B]

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          • #65
            The person who installed the lift didn't do a front end alignment and adjust the camber etc?
            HKB Electronics, manufacturer of the Alternator Voltage Booster, Silver 2008 D4D,Lifted,Underbody protection, Alternator Voltage Booster, Tiger Z winch, Lightforce DL, Air Horns, Tanami Drawers, Drop down fridge slide, Outback cargo barriers, Rotronics dual Battery system, Polaris GPS, HF/UHF/VHF, Radio speaker combiner, Long ranger water tank, Diff breathers, Inverter, Snorkel and others

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            • #66
              Yep, or didn't quite adjust the camber pin quite enough
              [B]Cheers Gary[B]
              [I]White 150 V6 GXL: TJM bullbar, ARB Intensity LED spotties, ICOM 440 UHF CB, ARB 2" OME lift kit, Tracklander roof rack, ABR Sidewinder alternator fuse, dual battery system, two 40L Engels, ORS fridge slide, solar regulator, 3rd row seats removed and ORS twin drawers with Autosafe cargo barrier, ARB twin motor air compressor [/I][/B][/B]

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              • #67
                Well it's been another 8 months on since my last post about the wear on the outside of the Coopers tyres. I had the camber issue looked at and the tyres turned around on the rims. But that is no longer my main concern as a few months ago cracks have begun appearing on each sidewall just above the bead. So I can only assume that the new u beaut strengthened sidewalls have made the carcass so stiff that when you let the tyres down to go off road they no longer flex evenly along the side wall but mainly at the weakest point, being just above the bead.

                I've done some reading and it looks like this is a common thing now with these tyres (Coopers st maxx), and that it is also happening with the new BFG's too.
                looks like it's now down to Mickey Thompson atz p3. I've tried Mr Coopers, lord knows I've tried.....
                [B]Cheers Gary[B]
                [I]White 150 V6 GXL: TJM bullbar, ARB Intensity LED spotties, ICOM 440 UHF CB, ARB 2" OME lift kit, Tracklander roof rack, ABR Sidewinder alternator fuse, dual battery system, two 40L Engels, ORS fridge slide, solar regulator, 3rd row seats removed and ORS twin drawers with Autosafe cargo barrier, ARB twin motor air compressor [/I][/B][/B]

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                • #68
                  Gee wish I read this prior to buying a set
                  my first impression are loud for brand new
                  iv had MT that have been quiter

                  any chance you could post a photo and what did coopers have to say ?
                  Last edited by Rockhop; 12-06-2018, 06:22 PM. Reason: Added comments

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                  • #69
                    i haven't had this issues, tyres are around three years old, around 30000km and a lot of that at low pressures ie 26PSI and lower. Have also read
                    of a different brand with same issue but there was some debate that maybe wrong bead profile was used.
                    HKB Electronics, manufacturer of the Alternator Voltage Booster, Silver 2008 D4D,Lifted,Underbody protection, Alternator Voltage Booster, Tiger Z winch, Lightforce DL, Air Horns, Tanami Drawers, Drop down fridge slide, Outback cargo barriers, Rotronics dual Battery system, Polaris GPS, HF/UHF/VHF, Radio speaker combiner, Long ranger water tank, Diff breathers, Inverter, Snorkel and others

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                    • #70
                      Here's a couple of pics for you. Haven't bothered with Coopers because I now what they'll say. Booked in for a new set of Mickey Thompson ATZ P3's. Will see how they go.......
                      [B]Cheers Gary[B]
                      [I]White 150 V6 GXL: TJM bullbar, ARB Intensity LED spotties, ICOM 440 UHF CB, ARB 2" OME lift kit, Tracklander roof rack, ABR Sidewinder alternator fuse, dual battery system, two 40L Engels, ORS fridge slide, solar regulator, 3rd row seats removed and ORS twin drawers with Autosafe cargo barrier, ARB twin motor air compressor [/I][/B][/B]

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by sunchaser View Post
                        Here's a couple of pics for you. Haven't bothered with Coopers because I now what they'll say. Booked in for a new set of Mickey Thompson ATZ P3's. Will see how they go.......
                        Same company and same factory, not sure what you have achieved with that change...
                        Cheers
                        Micheal.

                        2008 GXL D4D Auto. GOING... GOING... GONE
                        2015 GXL 1GD Auto. And it begins again...

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                        • #72
                          The whole tyre pressure debate is a big one,
                          so according to coopers they recommended the 6psi rule for LT 4wd tyres ( on road use )

                          just an example using this rule on our 2.8 prado setup with all the typical accessories bull bar, winch, dual batts, underbody protection they are 28 psi cold

                          https://www.coopertires.com.au/media...-pressures.pdf

                          I usually drop straight to 18psi once in low range




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                          • #73
                            Can anyone please advise what the road noise is like on Cooper A/T3 HD tyres, I'm looking to replace the original Dunlop Grandtreks for something tougher

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