The QLD police blitz on 4x4s and caravan towing. .

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So the rules are destined to be changed in line with NCOP. Legislation to be completed during October. Essentially 50mm suspension and 50mm diameter increase in tyres for esc equipped vehicles and larger lifts for non esc.

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http://statements.qld.gov.au/Stateme...and-4wd-owners

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Long overdue- Still seeing posts on facebook about cops getting around Double Island and Inskip on the beaches defecting people- As well as DOT pulling people over in the arterial roads out of Brisbane so they might still be trying to cash in while the laws haven't changed.

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I believe there’s a face book page disclosing the locations “Defect Station Locations QLD”

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So if you get pulled over and defected for say having a tyre increase (one size up) on a vehicle with ESC and then the law gets changed and what was previously illegal is now legal, what then is the legality of the defected notice ?

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I’d contest it... there’s no way it would be enforceable

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From Courier Mail today
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...15d7ba4fc7ea63
PREMIER Annastacia Palaszczuk has comprehensively slapped down Transport Minister Mark Bailey on the controversial 4WD towing laws that he was trying to stealthily push through.

Realising the political implications of getting grey nomads offside, the Premier intervened to ensure a backdown by the hapless minister.

Caught out, Bailey then tried to shift the blame to Canberra and said it was a federal issue.

Retirees bear brunt of 4WD car towing tax

Federal Liberal MP Andrew Laming is now pushing to have every person unfairly captured in the minister’s “solo flight’’ to be refunded their fines. “They shouldn’t be subjected to court ... we don’t want this becoming a lawyer’s picnic,’’ Laming said.

Queenslanders have invested heavily in their caravans, trailers and off-road vehicles and the attack on them by Bailey was in poor form.

He wouldn’t even meet or communicate with the industry before trying to ram through the new laws. Full marks to the Premier for calling this out.

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. Full marks to the Premier for calling this out.

its sounding promising , promising indeed!

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The cynic in me doubts there's a back room team working to re-imburse those fined under this ridiculous "hooning" legislation.
More likely the onus will be on the individual to prove his case.
What a useless minister. Got the school bus drivers off side too, again with zero consultation.
Premier can see the writing on the wall.

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While I agree with some comments regards the legislation I have to disagree that it was ridiculous to penalise some of the vehicle owners. I work just north of the Gold Coast and used to often see the style of vehicle that made the news broadcasts. These vehicles are not a little illegal but a lot, there are many with 4" lifts, 35" tyres or so which protrude past the guards etc. Often when driving at night due to the increased height of the headlights & "fog lights" behind me, I have to adjust external mirrors to remove the glare and I'm sure oncoming traffic is being dazzled as well. Think about the impact point of these raised vehicles, yes a truck is higher but look at the front end, it is relatively low and I would say certainly lower that the vehicles being discussed.
Yes changing to a 70 profile from a 65 should be okay with a 50mm suspension lift, what has draw the police attention is no doubt the few who have gone over the top so to speak.

Not looking to start a flame war, just my thoughts.

Lee

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While I agree with some comments regards the legislation I have to disagree that it was ridiculous to penalise some of the vehicle owners. I work just north of the Gold Coast and used to often see the style of vehicle that made the news broadcasts. These vehicles are not a little illegal but a lot, there are many with 4" lifts, 35" tyres or so which protrude past the guards etc. Often when driving at night due to the increased height of the headlights & "fog lights" behind me, I have to adjust external mirrors to remove the glare and I'm sure oncoming traffic is being dazzled as well. Think about the impact point of these raised vehicles, yes a truck is higher but look at the front end, it is relatively low and I would say certainly lower that the vehicles being discussed.
Yes changing to a 70 profile from a 65 should be okay with a 50mm suspension lift, what has no doubt draw the police attention is no doubt the few who have gone over the top so to speak.

Not looking to start a flame war, just my thoughts.

Lee

It's worth noting that these modern vehicles rocking 4 inch lifts and 35inch tyres still have much better brakes and are far safer in an accident than my 40 series landcruiser- and most other cars made in the 80's (let alone prior to that) of which there are still a lot of getting around. I don't think that 35's and a 4 inch lift is all that outlandish? Maybe 40 inch treps is getting carried away but I believe there should be a seperate license catagory to allow these types of highly modified vehicles to be registered and drivin on the road (maybe similar to a club rego) not driven every day, but if you want to take the truck out and do a burn up the glasshouse mountains or some such it should be permissable.

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Yes poorly thought out again.
I'm certain my ancient 90 can go a hell of a lot more than 50mm lift, sure I read somewhere 125mm (total) but I'm very happy with my 35mm suspension plus 25mm tyre.
Yet a brand new vehicle with far superior suspension and braking is restricted AND defected.