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  • [Vote] Which Tyres should I get?

    [x-posting here to get more ... ahem ... traction]

    Hi everyone, so I've been driving my Prado 2014 v6 this last year with the tyres it came with - some obscure branded road tyre that I wouldn't trust much on anything other than dry tar.

    I'm considering changing them for one of the well known brands and through lots of searching and trying to evaluate the back-and-forth of opinions I'm still at a loss, and hope someone here can enlighten me a bit.

    So I'm basically looking at the most well known of the tyres:
    1. Cooper AT3 4S
    2. Cooper AT3 LT
    3. BFG KO2
    4. Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus

    I'm leaning heavily to the AT3 4S or Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus because they appear to be better suited to my needs, which are mainly bitumen (city/highway) and the odd bit of weekend beach/unsealed road driving. For beach driving I'm thinking of the sort that gets one around Fraser Island, Straddy Island, and up the Noosa North Shore beach. That sort of thing. Cost is important because money too tight to mention.

    I'd be interested in hearing any opinions as to why I should go for one tyre over another. For a while I was only considering the KO2's, but there's a lot of mixed reviews out there and a mate of mine said he'd used Coopers and thought they were better (albeit he was referring to M/T spec). I feel like Cooper AT3 LT may be more than I need and may not handle as well on the bitumen as the 4S model, plus they're a bit more expensive than the 4S (but only by about $40). The Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus look a good option at a cheaper price point ($250 ea for a set of 4 on tyresales) but it's very difficult to find some real reviews on them.

    Thanks for the insight!

    [Edit] Standard tyre size on at the moment: 265/65/17. Does increasing to 265/70/17 make any difference other than a more accurate speedo/fuel consumption?

    [Edit2] It's interesting to me that people still suggest I get the KO2's, despite me stating I'll be doing mostly road driving. Are there not drawbacks to this approach, like more noise, wheel vibration, more fuel, and less assuredness on wet roads? If none of those were concerns I'd probably pay the extra $50 per tyre for the KO2's for something that'll give me more options over the next few years, although I have seen a lot of people complaining about balancing issues.
    9
    Cooper AT3 4S
    0%
    0
    Cooper AT3 LT
    22.22%
    2
    BFG KO2
    44.44%
    4
    Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus
    11.11%
    1
    Other (please leave a comment!)
    22.22%
    2

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Snouto; 21-03-2019, 03:41 PM.

  • #2
    You might want to state what size you need, 17" or 18" as they all have there good and bad points.
    Normally I would recommend LT construction however if your only looking at sand/beach work as opposed to outback gravel roads etc I think passenger construction should suffice.

    Lee
    '18 VX, Billies with Dobinson springs, Summit bar with Narva Enhanced Optics to help my old eyes

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Leethal View Post
      You might want to state what size you need, 17" or 18" as they all have there good and bad points.
      Normally I would recommend LT construction however if your only looking at sand/beach work as opposed to outback gravel roads etc I think passenger construction should suffice.

      Lee
      Thanks, I've added that detail to my post. Re: LT, what trade-off is there going to be between better offload vs on-road capabilities? Most of my driving will be on-road so I'm thinking that's where the priority should be. That said, if LT are more or less the same as Passenger tyres and the cost isn't prohibited I'd certainly consider them again.

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      • #4
        Hankook Mt/03 . Better in the rain on blacktop than KO2s in my experience (with both). They like being run at Toyota reccomended pressure (around 30psi for an empty Prado. ) One of the best mud tyres, quiet on road and cheap. Love them. This is due to the compound which is very soft. The only downside is : shorter lifespan, maybe good for about 50,000. I only put 15,000 on mine before selling the truck. Will put them on my new truck when the Nittos wear out. You get 4 for $1000, easy. https://www.jaxtyres.com.au/tyres/br...d=74588&sSize= or https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyr...r16/145889?q=4 . I havent used the AT_M Hanook all terrain, but would reccomend them based on my expereince with the muddies, and I have also put sport tyres on my 250hp Volvo V60.
        Last edited by DamianF; 20-03-2019, 04:47 PM.

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        • #5
          DamianF You'd actually recommend a mud tyre for my stated purpose of 95% road and 5% beach/unsealed road? My natural uneducated reaction is one of surprise, since I'd have assumed an MT tyre would be harsher on fuel, noisier than a more road-centric option, and likely to wear down quickly. Again, just my uneducated reaction, I've never had an MT tyre so I have zero personal experience. Thanks for the sidewinder!

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          • #6
            Can’t comment on the ones you’ve listed, but I have Toyo Open Country AT2 on my Prado, been there for 50000ks and still looking good. I tow a caravan and have been to Birdsville and down to Innaminka on one trip, Flinders Ranges and Stezlycki Track to Innaminka on another and never had a problem. The rest of the time is a daily driver around Sydney with the odd trip to the bush and beach including Fraser Is.
            2013 GXL DIESEL AUTO, ARB BULLBAR, IRONMAN SUSPENSION, TOYO OPEN COUNTRY A/T2, JAYCO DISCOVERY OUTBACK

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            • #7
              For your application and intended usage profile definitely the Pirelli Scorpion.
              2007 120 GXL D4D 6sp Man - My Rig https://www.pradopoint.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24945&d=1487341201

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              • #8
                LowRange
                Member
                LowRange Thanks that’s pretty much where my head is, I suppose the question then becomes get the Pirelli or cooper 4s? I sorta feel like the cooper will be a more accomplished tyre, purely due to cooper’s experience and pirelli’s lack of. Whether that justifies an extra $50 per tyre I don’t know.
                I just saw a ute driving around on the Pirelli, they looked good although I feel the sidewall detail is there for show only. Could be wrong.

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                • #9
                  I know they are not on your list but have been running Bridgestone Dueler A/T D697 for years. Have traveled through the Flinders Ranges, Vic high country, Kimberley and about to do a Simpson Desert crossing with them.
                  [B]Tasmania 2015 GTG Committee Member[/B] 2005 Prado Pilbara, Sovereign Bar, Driver & passenger weathershields, UHF TX3220, Spare wheel spaces, Lifestyle rack, Genuine front & midrow seatcovers, Genuine front & midrow rubber floor mats, ARB 47 litre fridge/freezer, Hilux washer jets, BF Goodridge A/T, Radiator protection plate, Dual battery tray and isolator, ARB 2.5m awning, Rhino heavy duty areo bars, MSA rear wheel bin, MAXTRAX

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VKPrado View Post
                    I know they are not on your list but have been running Bridgestone Dueler A/T D697 for years. Have traveled through the Flinders Ranges, Vic high country, Kimberley and about to do a Simpson Desert crossing with them.
                    VKPrado
                    Avid PP Poster!
                    VKPrado Thanks, they were mentioned to me almost in passing by the garage so I didn't give them much consideration. Having done a quick search online it's clear they have a very good review score, and the price is cheaper than the other options mentioned. I'll certainly give them some consideration (especially now that the Pirelli's have gone back up to 275 on tyresales). Cheers

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                    • #11
                      Dueler 697 gets my vote as well. They have a buy 3 get 1 free deal at the moment.
                      2016 Crystal Pearl Auto VX 2.8, TJM Bar, Safari Snorkel, Cooper AT/3, OME 50mm lift, Dual batts

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                      • #12
                        I think Costco also sell the Bridgestone Dueler 687. Can't fault these for their thread depth and they are a Light Truck construction tyre.

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                        • #13
                          BFG by far
                          if your not in nsw run the 265/70/17profile as they look tuff
                          if your in nsw you’ll have to run 275/65/17to keep within the rta specs and stupid rules.

                          I had the BFG on my first Prado they will last close to 100000 kays, even though they look much more heavier duty than the dueler there still just as quiet.

                          My second Prado I took the cheaper option and bought the dueler, drove nicely hated the look of them
                          I sold them @ $500 loss three weeks later and got the BFG which I should’ve got in the first place.
                          Get the white lettering too!
                          i just think they look better than any other tyre (Mickey Thompson’s look good too)

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                          • #14
                            Why do you think 265/70 arent legal in NSW?
                            My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Snouto View Post
                              DamianF You'd actually recommend a mud tyre for my stated purpose of 95% road and 5% beach/unsealed road? My natural uneducated reaction is one of surprise, since I'd have assumed an MT tyre would be harsher on fuel, noisier than a more road-centric option, and likely to wear down quickly. Again, just my uneducated reaction, I've never had an MT tyre so I have zero personal experience. Thanks for the sidewinder!
                              Snouto,
                              they are quieter than the BFG ATs and grip better on wet tarmac. Yes , Ive had both.

                              They work well in sand

                              Cheaper than the others.

                              look great

                              whats not to love?

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