Increased power and torque for 2021 Prado imminent

[Peterpilot]

Interesting that the owners manual now specifies a GCM that is 500 kgs less compared to the earlier model years, but this reduction on GCM can be restored with the use of a weight distribution hitch.

A weight distribution hitch will not increase your GCM, it merely redistributes the weight a little more evenly across the axles of the tow tug.

The owners manual refers to a "weight carrying hitch".

Nowhere in the current owners manual does it state that you are permitted to exceed a gross combined weight of 5490kg and Toyota would need to issue an amendment to the manual to change the GCM limit

I am still waiting on Toyota to investigate this and get back to me https://www.pradopoint.com.au/forum/...gcm-limitation

[tempestv8]

Interesting that the owners manual now specifies a GCM that is 500 kgs less compared to the earlier model years, but this reduction on GCM can be restored with the use of a weight distribution hitch.

[DDK]

Big question will be if they have the DPF sorted now, or if the changes result in problems. Hopefully not!

too early to tell, but there is a specific DPF manual included that covers all Toyota models (Hilux etc), and has separate sections for Prado produced before August 2020 and after; so they have made changes to it, just not sure yet if it will fix the issues.

[LeadWings]

Big question will be if they have the DPF sorted now, or if the changes result in problems. Hopefully not!

[randog78]

Hmm.. seems like I bought my car 2 years too early. I would like the 150kw / 500nm output in my 2019 as well, better look into some tuning.

[GEEEXL]

so not just a software tweak - real hardware upgrades ( turbo) amongst others

the real wait is still for the big boy action in the Cruiser

[tempestv8]

Its official now - from Toyota Australia's pressroom:

https://toyota.pressroom.com.au/pres...navSectionID=2

[tempestv8]

Slightly newer updates: https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...october-125486
and
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...ce-boost-80056
and
https://www.formacar.com/en/news/vie...igbEoEGWHfkUG4

The last article might not be for the Australian market, but I am hoping that these safety features are included.

[tempestv8]

And here too: https://www.drive.com.au/news/2021-t...ed-123874.html

[fourbyfour]

Here is the article about the update just released on caradvice.
https://www.caradvice.com.au/863797/...rending&slot=0

[fourbyfour]

I can confirm that as well dealer said engine update as well as these for GXL smart start with vibration sensing, rain sensing wipers android auto and apple carplay so i guess stereo update, AEB with pedestrian day and night cyclist day detection, lane departure alert with brake to steer and road sign assist build from August onwards

[rags]

Just visited a local dealer today as we are weighing up our options for towing a new van that will be around 2700kg and over our current 2500 kg limit.
Any way the dealer showed me a “for Toyota dealer eyes only” document that said that builds from August 2020 will have an upgrade that includes the 150kw / 500Nm motor similar to the recently announced Hilux and will on the GX model that we spoke about have some tech upgrades like rain sensing wipers and other tech things and there will be a new brown colour which he showed me on the screen.

[DamianF]

I think it is highly possible for the performance increase to be a software/programming change as the engines are at present not stressed.
As for updating software for existing engines... it will never happen IMO. The legalities of changing an engines programming is a nightmare and something I cannot see a manufacturer doing unless they absolutely have too, think about the time line in getting the DPF program changed and then supplied. If a higher output version of the 2.8 does eventuate I would think Toyota will talk about upgraded build quality, perhaps piston & valve material changes to justify the higher outputs now without sacrificing reliability,that might possibly be true or possibly smoke and mirrors.
I work in the marine industry where we have the same base engine with several different outputs e.g. a 2.5 L diesel produces from 100 kw to 165 kw with no hardware change and the Yanmar 4LV range 110 kw to 185 kw, an engine which looks a lot like the 2.8

Apparently the 2.8 can be tuned to make 186hp at the wheels with a tune and exhaust: https://www.justdieselperformance.co...dated-2019.pdf
thats about 70% over stock, so over 210kW at the flywheel.

The old 3.0 could be tuned out to well over 300 hp.

[DamianF]

Toyota seem to be pretty in tune with the preferences of the vast majority. Sales of the 1GR-FE V6 were terrible, despite it being a fantastically reliable, powerful engine that used a couple of litres extra per 100kms and didnt melt pistons or need engine replacements. So I wouldn't bet on any changes or upgrades to the 2.8 until Toyota is forced to make them by emissions regulations.

[tempestv8]

Not looking good:

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...e-wont-make-it

The Toyota LandCruiser Prado's 2.8-litre diesel engine will miss out on the performance boost coming to the updated HiLux, with Toyota confirming there is currently "no plan" to update the off-road SUV's outputs.

Makes no sense to me, especially when the Fortuner is likely to receive the power upgrade:

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...ased-suv-78663