ARB winch bar

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has anyone fitted headlight protectors when they have the ARB bar?

if so how do you attach the covers at the bottom where the clip normally loops onto the top edge of the front bumper at the bottom of the headlight?

There shouoldn't be any issues with attaching, mind you I fitted my headlight covers well before the bar. From what i recall you just loosened the headlight from inside the bonnet to allow the stainless mounting tabs to be inserted and then tighten up the headlight. It was about 5-6 years ago that i fit mine. Do you have the destructions on how to fit. Shouldn't really matter that the bar is fitted. If you don't i can have a look and see if i still have mine. Might have a copy of them in with the vehicle manal in the gloverbox which I could possible scann and email.

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There shouoldn't be any issues with attaching, mind you I fitted my headlight covers well before the bar. From what i recall you just loosened the headlight from inside the bonnet to allow the stainless mounting tabs to be inserted and then tighten up the headlight. It was about 5-6 years ago that i fit mine. Do you have the destructions on how to fit. Shouldn't really matter that the bar is fitted. If you don't i can have a look and see if i still have mine. Might have a copy of them in with the vehicle manal in the gloverbox which I could possible scann and email.

yep i have the instructions and they dont help me in my situation. they have one clip that fits at trhe top edge of the light, slides in from engine bay after you move the rubber out of the way. the second one is supposed to fit bottom edge nearest centre of car with the clip going from the cover back under the top edge of the bumper. i dont have a bumper! the gap from the bullbar to car is at least 25mm and the clip isnt made to go that far. if i make something that does it will look ugly and noticeable as it will stand out when you see it. the bottom edge of the light is exposed and nothing there for it to attach to. the clip isnt long enough for anything like that. looks like i either glue the clip to bottom edge of light and use the bolt etc to attach to cover part or i take it back.

taking it back would be an option if the local toyota could get me covers. they have said toyota (all of toyota aus wide, not just them) will not be getting them in to sell for 120 anymore. i wonder if i got a dope??? stay tuned as they say....

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went and got a refund from bursons. they scalled their supplier to be told they only make them to suit standard manufactured vehicles blah blah blah

anyway their loss. so i rang another toyota dealer and he doesnt have any either BUT he was able to say another dealer in QLD did and he would arrange for them to be delivered to another one of their local franchise outlets (Ford) for me to pick up Monday.

Heaps better service than my nearest Toyota outlet. I even went back in to that local one again earlier today for them to say same thing, none to be found anywhere.

So cant wait for Monday to came....

PS if anyone wants some covers for their 120 Prado they want to get in now while they are available in limited numbers

maybe should buy them all up and keep for ebay and make a profit, sorry thats just evil hey

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Probably explains why mine are Aunger brand and clips under the headlight - doesn't matter whether bullbar or stock bumper.

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Mick, I had a quick look at the my headlight protetctors. Mine are Toyota ones but there are only two clips along the upper edge of the light that hold them in place. At the bottom a strip of plastic comes in under the lower edge of the headlight. There is no clip mount at the bottom that you describe. I would take a photo and post but the wife has just taken off in it to go and look at some plants at a nursery.

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Hey guys,
What antenna mounts works with the ARB bar???
Bought a GME bullbar bracket but it not going to work.
Theres not enough clearance between the bar (top tube) and the bonnet opening to fit any Ive seen so far with only 40 mm clearance at best.
Dont want it at the ends where the holes are in the bar, want it closer to centre.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers

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Mick, I had a quick look at the my headlight protetctors. Mine are Toyota ones but there are only two clips along the upper edge of the light that hold them in place. At the bottom a strip of plastic comes in under the lower edge of the headlight. There is no clip mount at the bottom that you describe. I would take a photo and post but the wife has just taken off in it to go and look at some plants at a nursery.

i finally picked up my toyota headlight covers tonight after getting a refund on the crappy aftermarket ones - so now theres no more issues, thankfully

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regarding the "recovery loops" on the "chassis mount brackets" for the deluxe bar, i chased up the local arb stockist for a price to supply, supply/fit new brackets with the loops as mine doesnt have them.

they just called me with the price. about $300 supply/fit because the whole bar has to come off, allow to remove the uhf aerial and new captive nuts and bits and pieces blah blah blah

so then i ask "why cant you use the nuts and bits and pieces i already got?" answer lost me, as all i want to do is swap the same shape bracket over except the new one will have a loop hanging off the end.

so then i ask for a break up of cost. "$170 labour, $11 captive nuts, and each bracket with the loop is a massive $35 each and i am not sure where the rest is other than bits and pieces??"

my question is why cant i remove 1 bracket at a time? I would have to undo 5 bolts on the outside of the "chassis mount brace" (the bit that goes up at an angle and towards the front) which mounts to the "chassis mount brackets" but leave the single bolt on the inside to keep it connected. I would think i would need a jack/support under the bar to keep it supported in position. then remove 2 bolts from side of "chassis mount brackets" and swap over.

does this make any sense or am i completelty wrong??

instructions for fitting are here:
http://www.arb.com.au/media/products...03/fitting.pdf

i am going to try ring another arb store, maybe head office if i find their number, and see what the actual individual price is delivered to me. if the local supplier gets them and sells them to me for 35 each surely its the same or less, which at $70 is cheaper then the outback ideas $120+ price for aftermarket which doesnt fit anyway

any suggestions?

You can remove the "loop bracket" easily without removing the bullbar, however the nut toward the rear has a captive nut attached to a "stick" inside the chassis. Once you undo this; the nut and stick will fall into the chassis, with a piece of wire and some patience you can retrieve the nut and screw the bolt back in, however you will not be able to refit the bracket unless you slot the rear hole or remove the bullbar. I have just made new brackets for mine, have a look here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...trailer/page15 you will see how I have slotted the rear hole.

Cheers Andrew

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You can remove the "loop bracket" easily without removing the bullbar, however the nut toward the rear has a captive nut attached to a "stick" inside the chassis. Once you undo this; the nut and stick will fall into the chassis, with a piece of wire and some patience you can retrieve the nut and screw the bolt back in, however you will not be able to refit the bracket unless you slot the rear hole or remove the bullbar. I have just made new brackets for mine, have a look here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...trailer/page15 you will see how I have slotted the rear hole.

Cheers Andrew

unfortunately mine does not have the rear captive nut/bolt. the original arb bar only had 2 bolts holding it on. it was a smaller bracket, it is without the steel section that extends up for the rear high bolt. - have a look at the photo i posted above. so i guess what you have done in no way decreases the performance of the "hold on" capacity of the bracket and its bolts, even if you didnt have the slotted one you actually have one more than i do right now!

my nudge bar had a nut with a piece of wire (welding rod??) welded to it. You fed the nut with wire thru that last hole to allow the nudge bar to be fitted. if i could weld i would do something similar, and this is then really a better version of the nut with the stick attached as you have a piece of wire that when you bend it into a L to a U shape it extends out of a hole in the chassis so you can hold the nut in position while you do it up. is that something you could do to fit that last bolt on? i dont know if you need it to be slotted if you do it this way. you would "hold" the nut by the wire, then with the bolt fitted thru the hole in the chassis support bracket you align the 2 and start doing it up. you could probably have the bracket hanging by that last bolt as you start to line it all up, or maybe tighten it in its position (not sure till i do it) the wire is then just bent against the chassis and left there. thats how it is with the ECB nudge bar (you could probably see it in the pics i have in the for sale section, or i could put a specific photo up if its needed)

if you feel the inclination to weld 1 piece of wire about 300mm long to a nut that fits a ( M12 x 1.75 x 40mm bolt ) x2 off and post the 2 of them to me (fully paid for of course) i would be forever grateful - crawl, crawl, beg, beg - By doing it this way with the wire on the nut, its the only way i think i can fit the new brackets without removing the full bar just to fit that last captive nut in, simply because i have the first model arb bracket that never had it

when i get to change the brackets over i will try remember to take a photo of each bracket side by side so you see how arb changed it from version 1 (no loop, no rear bolt) to what you have now before you changed over to your modified one

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Hey Guys,
Sorry to bring up an old thread but I was just chasing some info. I have just purchased a used ARB Winch Bar and I will be collecting it in a week or so. I had a look at it today and it all seems to be there, however does anybody have pictures of exactly all the major parts that you need to fit this bar?

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Hey Guys,
Sorry to bring up an old thread but I was just chasing some info. I have just purchased a used ARB Winch Bar and I will be collecting it in a week or so. I had a look at it today and it all seems to be there, however does anybody have pictures of exactly all the major parts that you need to fit this bar?

Post 173 contains a link for fitting instructions for an ARB bull bar on a 120.

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You can remove the "loop bracket" easily without removing the bullbar, however the nut toward the rear has a captive nut attached to a "stick" inside the chassis. Once you undo this; the nut and stick will fall into the chassis, with a piece of wire and some patience you can retrieve the nut and screw the bolt back in, however you will not be able to refit the bracket unless you slot the rear hole or remove the bullbar. I have just made new brackets for mine, have a look here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...trailer/page15 you will see how I have slotted the rear hole.

Cheers Andrew

Hi Andrew , I am about to take these brackets off to strengthen them. The post where you slotted hole to prevent taking the bar off I couldn't find on page 15. I read through post 150 but I'm not sure what you are referring to. Any help will be appreciated as I didn't want to take the bar off myself if I could get around it. Did you fish the stick out of the hole on the outside or inside of the chassis ?
Thanks Matt

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Stretching the memory a bit now From memory after removing the bracket I used a thin piece of wire with a hook bent on it and went in through the rectangular hole just back a bit from the nut in question, I recall it being a bit fiddly but didn't take that long to get it in a position I could screw the bolt back in.

You can see where I slotted my new brackets in the pictures here http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post292190

Cheers Andrew

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Thanks Andrew for your quick reply . Will take one off tonight and get one welded up at a time and support the bar. Thanks again
Matt

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Might be too late but perhaps a quicker, cheaper option would be to install a set of 150 series Roadsafe recovery points. These come with nuts welded to the end of pieces of wire. Once you remove the upper rear bolt the existing captive nut will fall inside the chassis rail (I planned ahead and siliconed the captive nut holder to the chassis to stop it falling), you can then feed the recovery point nuts in through the elongated holes a bit further towards the rear of the car.
To see how the recovery points fit, check my rig build linked in my signature.