Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
Originally posted by mj312
Man, I've just "wasted" an hour reading this thread ... and my eyeballs are about to fall out ... :shock:
Added to the "to do" list ...
Great work everyone!!
No time is ever 'wasted' on PP
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Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
G'day all, I've been following this thread for some time now admiring the creativeness from everyones builds.
Its aslo inspired me to finish my drawer setup. As I'm approaching the end of my own cargo drawer build, everytime I do a test fit out into the car, I can't help but notice how heavy this thing is getting. So much so now that I need a hand to get it in the back.
Has anybody ever calculated the weight of their own drawers, or noticed any loss in ride height since fitting their own creation. I surfed the web and looked to see the weights of the real $$$$ ADR approved built systems like the Outback design. They give a weight of 80K for their LC120 design.
I would guess that my own cargo drawers would be around the same weight for a 2 x drawer setup w/slide, probably a bit under that actually, but I was concerned with structural integrity and built it solid to with stand all the bumps and knocks it will take in future.
Has anybody taken suspension measurments with their drawers in and out.
......Or maybe its about time I removed the Tojo setup and fitted better aftermarket heavier springs and shocks to cope with the extra weight ???? Does anybody have thoughts on this?
Stewy
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Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
I don't know what the 3rd row seats weigh... though, since they need to be removed, that helps to significantly offset the weight of the drawers. What's left must only be equivalent to a child riding around in the back all the time. Whilst upgrading the springs/shocks is always(?) a good idea, imho, it's hard to make an argument that it's necessary. Though if you need ammunition for such an argument, then scratch that weight-compensation comment .
Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
I think we all suffer from the 'must make drawers bomb proof' the first time we make them. The drawers I made for the Mav were 19mm ply and took 3 people to lift. They were never bolted down as they were too heavy to take out once we'd tested fitted them. They never moved in the bush either. When I made the 'storage unit' for the Prado I wanted it to be light and just strong enough. Hence why I used a combo of 12mm ply for the top and bottom, 16mm for the uprights and a space case instead of a drawer. Heaps lighter and no rollers etc. to fab or rattle. So far so good.
Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
I got over excited about the drawers. I do love the look but concerned about the weight and potentially the space lost by having the drawers. I guess there are pros and cons in both and it's up to each to determine what's best for them but for the time being I'm just going to build a false floor. Mount the fridge on this with a slide and store eveything else nice and neat. May not have some of the advantages of the drawers but a lot lighter,
Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
Originally posted by Schaffer
I got over excited about the drawers. I do love the look but concerned about the weight and potentially the space lost by having the drawers. I guess there are pros and cons in both and it's up to each to determine what's best for them but for the time being I'm just going to build a false floor. Mount the fridge on this with a slide and store eveything else nice and neat. May not have some of the advantages of the drawers but a lot lighter,
Which is why I've gone for what I've made. My fridge sits on a heavy piece of MDF (leftover from something else so I used it at the time) but I want to replace it with some ply with carpet on it for the times when I haven't got the fridge in (and tied down) things won't slide around on it as much. I generally remove it anyway (takes me a couple of minutes because one of the bolts holding it down is difficult to reach) and put in my false floor contraption for everyday use.
Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
Originally posted by LiveFreeAndRoam
I don't know what the 3rd row seats weigh... though, since they need to be removed, that helps to significantly offset the weight of the drawers. What's left must only be equivalent to a child riding around in the back all the time. Whilst upgrading the springs/shocks is always(?) a good idea, imho, it's hard to make an argument that it's necessary. Though if you need ammunition for such an argument, then scratch that weight-compensation comment .
My AUD0.02,
LFaR.
LFaR,...No arguement on weight compensation, don't know where you were going with that?? probably just a bad choice of words on my behalf saying the suspension having to cope with the extra weight.
Good point about the 3rd row seats though. The missing rows should offset against the drawer weight, I would hope.
I guess as there is are no occupants back there either, you pick up any weight gained there aswell.
I just needed to guage if I may have over built my drawers too much, and now too heavy.
After the comments so far,....I'm more comfortable that I haven't.
My vehicles suspension is stock standard and I did measure a slight drop when the drawers were fitted.
....But I guess this would be no different with the third row seats added or vehicle occupants or when carrying extra load anyway.
Thanks for the feedback fellas.
Stewy
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Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
Thanks to all those that posted previously, it gave me great ideas. I ended up doing my own design and here is it. I was restricted by the fact that my Prado is a leave vehicle (ie no holes or mods allowed) and the need to occasionally carry an extra person when one of my girls brings a friend home.
So I started with the false bottom that I tied down to the existing tiedown points.
I installed fridge tiedown points to this on both sides of the vehicle. When I have the camper trailer attached, the back door only 1/2 opens due to the spare on the front of it, so the fridge has to be on the passenger side.
Then I constructed the box for the fridge. I have one of the original Waeco's that has no carry handles to tie it down, so the box has to be snug otherwise it will bash about. When I had it in the back of the Hilux, I had a hole in the draws in the tray that it sat in, but being out the back I couldn't hear the bashing and crashing.
Next came the carpet, electrical connections and mounting in the back
The electrical connection allows me to switch the fridge on as well as have additional 2 x 12 volt cigarette plugs and 3x12V small sockets, plus a permanently mounted volt meter to monitor the voltage as the Waeco will switch off at 10.8V without any notification.
Peter
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Re: Home made drawers under $110. Basic measurments added
Hi guys,
Do you know if when you fold down the middle row of seats with these drawers installed that they are roughly flat with the drawers so that you could put a matress in the back. Or has anyone got any infomation on draw or other modifications for putting a matress in the back?
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