Hand brake shoe replacement

[Chriso57 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chriso57]

Re: Hand brake shoe replacement

Hey guys, If you are going through hand brake shoes, you are adjusting up to far. Put your wheel back on with two nuts and feel for brake rub. Re-adjust so the brake shoe does not touch. Also, if you are going to work on the ground I would suggest the purchase of some Kinchrome 3000kg stands or something similar. The stands are mounted to the chassis rails, not the diff. The stands you are using are not designed for 4wds. I have seen a person with his foot cut off through not using the right method of safety on the ground. Not nice, I can tell you.

If at all in doubt with your stands then throw the wheel (on its side) under there aswell. I always do, just as a precaution. That way if it all goes pear shaped the car will only drop a few inches - not all the way to your foot :shock:

Chriso

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Hi fellas. Could someone advise me WTF is the go with not using axle stands on the axle? I have been using this method for the last 41 years as a mechanic - just the way it was taught at trade school. Never had one vehicle fall off yet and never seen one come off in the shop. Do your 120's have IRS or something? Cheers.

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Hi fellas. Could someone advise me WTF is the go with not using axle stands on the axle? I have been using this method for the last 41 years as a mechanic - just the way it was taught at trade school. Never had one vehicle fall off yet and never seen one come off in the shop. Do your 120's have IRS or something? Cheers.

I second that. To use axle stands on the chassis at the rear would require stands with a raised height of something stupid like 800mm or so :shock:

Cheers,
Declan

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:?: no probs hear boys , im a boilermaker in heavy industry and i make alot of my own gear, my stands do " me " fine..
and generally put them where i want for the task at hand.. axle was good for the hand break shoes. but..............
each to their own .. my handbrake works sweet now thanks to this thread. :wink: . thanks boyz.. butane

:arrow: another tip , would be , before the adjuster goes back on . play with it work out which direction spreads the adjuster... assemble it in the narrow position.
( i set mine up so the top rolls inward to spread the shoes, allowed me to adjust with ease )

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Not this type of hand brake shoe replacement, obviously:

[butane8 Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close butane8]

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:idea: I took the new hand brake shoes to wyangla dam 4 the weekend.. handbrake could do with a tighten..but a massive confident boost taking on bigar lookout..
the more i pull this car apart the more i like it :idea: butane

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The drums should just slip off.

Yeah right. NO F'ing W@Y.

Mine were TIGHT. To get them off I had too...

1. removed the caliper bracket
2. Put a piece of soft wood (pine actully) against the back of the disk and pounded with a big hammer.
3. Work around the disk bit by bit.It should eventually slide off.

The spigot on the axle where the disk sits was rusty.

I suppose the main reason mine were so hard to get off was the fact someone (not me (- had broken a jacking bolt off in one of the jacking holes and the other was a bit rusty so didn't hold up to much pressure.

FYI the theads in the jacking holes are M8x1mm pitch. A normal bolt from the hard ware store will be M8X1.25 and will waste the thread quick smart.

cheers
Damian

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:arrow: DamianG, do you think it would have been a better idea to pay someone/ or do you think it is a D.I.Y ? loose much skin .. cheers butane

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thanks winniliss,

After having taken my 2006 gxl to my mechanic and asking him to look at why my handbrake wasnt working, he came up with the conclusion i needed a new handbrake cable. He still adjusted my shoes and said it was working much better, $110 of labor gave me no improvement what so ever.

I had the rig booked into my toyota stealership for the soveriegn recall so i asked them to diagnose the handbrake too. I got the same answer, but this time with a quote - $750 bucks to replace the handbrake cable.

Thinking this was just not sounding right, and the fact id rather chock my wheels everywhere i go rather than hand them over 750 of my hard earned coin, i investigated myself, removed the center console and found that the nut on the lever had became lose and needed tightening. A dab of loctite and 10 minutes later i am 750 bucks better off.

Research first - Pay later.

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Good help is hard to find...

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Handbrake Fixed

Mr Toyota fixed my handbrake recently - new shoes and rotors.

$370 parts plus $220 labour and GST!

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I have found, once your handbrake is adjusted correctly, if you stay on the black, it wont need attention again, i have customers prado's example 250,000klms and all good! so yes may last a lifetime........

Once your in the mud and slop every other weekend very different story, mine could do with an adjust every month or 2, its ridiculous.
I certainly dont over adjust them i actually try to leave some clearance for the CRUD as it seems to act like emery paper.
I also avoid using the handbrake where possible. It was getting really bad......
So today i spent an hour, and pulled it apart for a clean and adjust, it all came up real well as usual, but my shoes are shagged, going to have to replace them, never had to change any before on these cars. looks like a real knuckle buster pain of a Job.
20,000klms of regualr offroad use and they are down to 1-2 mm.

Almost considering removing axles to do it....? How am i supposed to get to those retainer clips?
Where to buy shoes from? Toyota tell me nearly $200.00 hahahahaha
Repco tell me no listing......?

Any help with cheap supplier?
or try to convince me its not too hard so i actually do it.........

Thank you,

[mkh Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mkh]

#### seeing you're in Melb try this mob: http://www.tradebrake.com.au/
They are in Clayton but pretty sure they deliver anywhere. They're usually really good at sourcing hard to find parts and their prices are generally very good. I, and my old man before me, have used them for over 20 years.

Cheers,
Markus.

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How am i supposed to get to those retainer clips?

try to convince me its not too hard so i actually do it.........

Thank you,

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GOT A LAFF OUTTA THAT STATEMENT,

yes they are a bit daunting at first, but once my freind "Ben" (ex mechanic) did one clip up as a this is how you do, wasnt gunna let him show me up.... lol.. i put the other three on with no probs.. just needed a gee up.. cheers butane

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Anti rattle clips on hand brake

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GOT A LAFF OUTTA THAT STATEMENT,

yes they are a bit daunting at first, but once my freind "Ben" (ex mechanic) did one clip up as a this is how you do, wasnt gunna let him show me up.... lol.. i put the other three on with no probs.. just needed a gee up.. cheers butane

His day butane, How the bloody hell did you fit the anti rattle clips, did you draw the axles like I am considering doing tomorrow as I have wasted enough time trying to fit these bloody clips

Wassa ( Frederick)