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  • I've just got back from a couple of thousand km trip pulling quite a heavy camper trailer. From brisbane to Charleville, Quilpie, Yowah, Bourke, lightning ridge, nindigully, Warwick and back to brisbane, all on bitumen unfortunately. I wouldn't want to do the trip WITHOUT a torque convertor lockup switch!
    It was nothing short of fantastic. I used it every single day of driving.

    With the TC unlocked and slipping it doesn't take long for TC temps to reach 100+ degrees which in turn, causes transmission temps to begin to rise. With the TC locked the temps fall quickly and settle at 80-85 degrees and stay there.
    Unlocked and slipping compared to locked made a difference of live readout fuel economy of about 3L/100, tested on a long straight slightly inclining road with cruise control on. I was able to lock/unlock the TC and see a consistent change. I was able to see this amount of fuel economy change almost every time I engaged it on the trip, just the straight road was a good comparison test.

    On steep hills it is better to leave it unlocked and let the auto work it's magic. The lock up is best used on light loads. Towing (towing with headwinds), slight inclines, maintaining speed on flat road etc.
    The difference the TC lock makes means sitting in 5th gear at 100 easily, or running in 4th to protect the transmission from potential overheating, which would mean dropping the speed to about 80 to keep fuel economy down.

    Having a Scangauge was great to show the results of locking/unlocking the torque convertor.
    I never had any issues with it at all, no fault codes etc.

    When I get my laptop back from being fixed I will update the earlier diagram I posted. Although it is correct except for using a resistor instead of the voltage regulator.

    As for functionality, a low speed cut out would be handy, I forgot I had it on a couple of times and as I slowed down the car would shudder as a manual left in top gear would. I quickly learnt to switch it off, the light on the dash helps.
    I don't think a brake light cutout is the answer either, there were a few times where I wanted to let it unlock going up hills so the auto could do its own thing, tapping the brake on this occasion would not be a good thing.

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    • Agree with the unlock bit. We have yet to install a second unlock switch and have mastered the tap brake just enough to flash the lights.
      Even on some of the headwinds coming back from Mt Isa was too much for 5th locked and auto needed 4th locked.

      Overall we have not seen an improvement on fuel usage but this may be because before we made the TC lock the motor was chipped. High temperature is a thing of the past with the max we have had was 90 deg locked 3rd up Toowoomba range.

      Rusty.
      08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
      06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
      Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.

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      • MRW82
        Hi all, Mark, sounds like everything went well and a great holiday because of it. Question >>> Do you have the beast chipped. I read that the scanguage does not show true figures on some things when a chip is fitted. I have a DP Chip. (Good gear) What chip do you have Rusty??? Keep up the great work boys! I luv it. Thanks and cheers Bill.

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        • No I don't have a chip fitted.

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          • No chip in mine anymore.

            Although with the chip (Tunit) it held onto the higher gears and locked for longer.

            Rusty.
            08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
            06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
            Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.

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            • Rusty62
              Hi Rusty, What was the reason that you removed your chip??

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              • Hello, hello. Where is everyone???? I'm lonely. I having withdrawals with no news. Take care and cheers Bill.

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                • Originally posted by chardo View Post
                  Rusty62
                  Hi Rusty, What was the reason that you removed your chip??
                  Hole in number 3.
                  08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
                  06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
                  Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.

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                  • Originally posted by chardo View Post
                    MRW82
                    Hi all, Mark, sounds like everything went well and a great holiday because of it. Question >>> Do you have the beast chipped. I read that the scanguage does not show true figures on some things when a chip is fitted. I have a DP Chip. (Good gear) What chip do you have Rusty??? Keep up the great work boys! I luv it. Thanks and cheers Bill.
                    Scan gauge will work after it is calibrated. Easy job just adjust the liters used at fillup.
                    08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
                    06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
                    Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.

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                    • Thanks Rusty, That must have been an expensive time repairing the motor. Did it go quick or was there any warning signs? Santa is giving me a Scan gauge for Christmas. I have also been having a look at the Ultra gauge from America. They don't have the Auto temp on them yet, although someone over here has one set up on a 200 series and he can read the Auto temp. Has anyone had anything to do with one yet?

                      Hi Mark, Have you any plans on fitting a Chip in the future? I have found it very worthwhile in towing the Poptop van. I have had mine in for approx 7 years now with no probs. I have seen a Chip It chip in a 200 series and he has a lot of tuning issues with it. I have mine set about half way and has been good for me.
                      Did you get a chance yet to upgrade your wiring diagram. I have someone up here that can help me build one up I think. Well All, I'd better keep moving. Have a great Christmas and New Year if we don't catch up sooner. All the best Bill.

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                      • Hi All, Happy New Year. I have fitted my Christmas present, (scan gauge) and have entered the new code for the auto trans temp. Seems to be a great little addition to my nick backs. I am still learning to drive it yet, with only one tank still going down. New donuts coming up in the next month. Now have 105,000kms on without a flat, touch wood. Well better keep going. Take care and cheers Bill.

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                        • Hi again all, Where is everyone, HELP!!!! I am seriously looking at having a go at constructing a lock up kit and have been studying all the diagrams you
                          have put in, but I still need some help. Can somebody put the relay contact numbers on a diagram please like Mark did on his first drawing. He has changed it quite a bit since. I have a bit of an idea now but I'm still not that sure on it all. Thanks and cheers Bill.

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                          • MRW82 Hi Mark, I am getting my bits together, relays well under way, but am having a problem finding a resistor that is 5 amps. They all seem to be in Watts. can you please let me know if it is watts or amps. thanks and cheers Bill.

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                            • Can anyone else help me here ????? Need help. am trying.
                              Cheers Bill

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                              • This is for a D4D 2008 auto 5 speed. What car do you have.

                                6.8 ohms to replicate the lock up solenoid for the ecu.
                                12 ohms to give 1 amp to send to the lockup solenoid.

                                2 x SPST DIL 12v latching relays.



                                Rusty.
                                08 VX D4D, Lift, Safari Snorkle, Trailblazer Fridge, Custom Storeage System, BFG, ARB Safari Bar, Wife, Kids, Codan NGT HF Radio, Debt.
                                06 100 Series Sahara, Bilteins, Kings, Beaudesert 3", Diff drop, Unichip Q4, Safari Intercooler, EGR delete, 20ft Bushtracker, Codan Envoy more coming.
                                Sometimes i wake up Grumpy, most times i leave her sleep.

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