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  • #31
    Re: Ctek chargers?

    Hi all,

    I have received an XS7000, and was reading the Toyota manual in regards to charging, as I know nothing about the electronic side of cars, before connecting to make sure I don't screw something up.

    I have a redarc dual battery system and was going to use the CTEK to charge up the second battery due to the D4D alternator issues. In the manual it states that the earth connection should be disconnected from the battery when charging. Is this necessary with the CTEK, and does this mean that you have to re-set everything afterward? Do I have to do the same with the Aux battery and can I still leave the accessories running off it?

    I guess what I'm asking is:
    What's the best method for charging the aux battery to keep it fully charged?
    Is there a difference for the starter motor?
    Can I do both at once?


    Cheers,
    Ray.
    2008 Silver Ash D4D, Black Widow Draw System, Diff & Transmission Breathers, Dobinsons Suspension 35mm lift, Dual Battery, Radiator Bash Plate, Safair Snorkel, Yokohama GEO ATS

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    • #32
      Re: Ctek chargers?

      Originally posted by begs
      Hi all,

      I have received an XS7000, and was reading the Toyota manual in regards to charging, as I know nothing about the electronic side of cars, before connecting to make sure I don't screw something up.

      I have a redarc dual battery system and was going to use the CTEK to charge up the second battery due to the D4D alternator issues. In the manual it states that the earth connection should be disconnected from the battery when charging. Is this necessary with the CTEK, and does this mean that you have to re-set everything afterward? Do I have to do the same with the Aux battery and can I still leave the accessories running off it?

      I guess what I'm asking is:
      What's the best method for charging the aux battery to keep it fully charged?
      Is there a difference for the starter motor?
      Can I do both at once?


      Cheers,
      Ray.
      Ray

      Great questions, I have been thinking about this too just recently... Hoping someone here with knowledge in this area may assist/reply.
      TIA

      Cheers
      Borgy
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      • #33
        Re: Ctek chargers?

        Originally posted by borgy
        Great questions, I have been thinking about this too just recently... Hoping someone here with knowledge in this area may assist/reply.
        I second that, just about to purchase a charger and want to know what is the correct procedure for charging the aux battery.
        2014 Toyota Prado 150 D4D Auto (facelift); ARB Deluxe Bullbar; OME 2" Lift; Rhino Pioneer Platform Rack; Redarc BCDC 1225 with Optima Yellow Top; BF Goodrich Mud Terrain KM2; Lightforce Genuine Custom 70w HID; GME UHF; Safari Snorkel; Rigid Industry SR-Q2 side lights (yet to be installed); Domin8or winch (yet to be installed)

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        • #34
          Re: Ctek chargers?

          If using an external charger it is good practice to isolate the battery being charged from the vehicle's 12v system. This is a precaution to prevent damage to the vehicle electronics should there be a fault in the charger or 240Vac power supply. It is possible to charge the battery while connected and have no adverse effects, but it increases the amount damage that may occur should a fault occur. Personally I wouldn't trust the manufactures of the chargers or the local power authority enough to charge my battery with having it isolated.

          My recommendation is:

          If charging the main cranking battery , disconnect the main battery. This means having to reset clocks, windows etc. when finished.

          If charging an Aux. battery, for most installation types (Redarc, Piranah, ARB ...) you will need to isolate the Aux. battery from the vehicle. This shouldn't require reseting things. For those with isolated aux. charging systems (Ranox, inverter/charger), charging from an external 240Vac source can be achieved through system (with the addition of extra items) and isolating of the Aux. battery is not necessary.

          Leachy
          EX-Prado Owner

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          • #35
            Re: Ctek chargers?

            The Ctek should not get too hot when in operation.

            Mine did this a couple of years ago and it was traced to a short somewhere or other.

            I leave mine on 24hours a day , attached to 120a AGM battery, and it is barely warm.
            I would give the agents Bainbridge a ring. They are pretty helpful.
            http://www.bainbridgetechnologies.co...p?page=contact

            Phone 0738213333
            Pedro

            2007 D4D Auto

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            • #36
              Re: Ctek chargers?

              Originally posted by pradogxlv6
              As the deep cycle is a 115amp and the start is 700amp, the little charger was working it's arse off.. got to about 50%, so recharged 400amps in 14hrs
              You have a 700amp start battery? :shock:

              You're not confusing battery storage amp/hours and CCA are you? CCA is Cold Cranking Amps, and this is the ability of the battery to supply high amps for a very short time, it's not a measure of battery storage capacity...

              Michael
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              • #37
                Re: Ctek chargers?

                These CTEKL chargers really are the best, picked up a heavy duty one off ebay and saved $500 on the retail store price.

                We use the charger on the dual boat batteries and the car batteries, would recommend wihout a doubt.
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                • #38
                  Re: Ctek chargers?

                  i got mine xs7000 ff flebay for $200, delivered for ,keen to see how well they work. cheers samo
                  had an 03 gx 120 with some gear now got a 2013 bt 50 GT auto some ARB gear.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Ctek chargers?

                    Well iv'e joined the ctek xs7000 club, I brought mine this morning off fleabay for $200 delivered as well . Made the offer and was accepted comes with 5 years warrant from 4145derek. Can't wait for it to arrive and have a play with it.


                    Greg
                    Greg
                    GXL 3ltr TD Auto and Alloy Bullbar , IPF Extremes, Dual batteries, Safari Dtronics Chip / snorkel,radiator bash plate,uhf, Mandrel Bent Exhaust 2inch Lift & Gdyr MTR 70 series play tyres on steelies

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                    • #40
                      Re: Ctek chargers?

                      I was all set to buy another Ctek charger when I discovered this charger http://www.ozcharge.com.au/OC-SW121080.html

                      Does anybody have one or know anything about them?
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                      • #41
                        Re: Ctek chargers?

                        Another CTEK XS 7000 owner right here! Have been meaning to get a decent charger for a little while now and bit the bullet a fortnight ago after reading the threads on the auxiliary charging issues. The maintenance setting is the shiznit in my opinion because I'm often having to leave the Prado parked for one week plus.

                        Question though. I have ARB's Smart Solenoid dual batt system. Now do I need to charge the cranking battery and aux separately? Or can I just connect up to the cranking batt and let the solenoid feed the charge into the aux when the cranking batt voltage raises high enough, just as if it were getting charged by a "non smart" alternator.

                        Don't want the Engel short of power over the WA long weekend now do I.
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                        • #42
                          Re: Ctek chargers?

                          Just something you might want to be aware of....

                          CTEC do not make a calcium battery charger. The sales reps tell you yes it will charge a calcium battery (by putting it into boost mode, that then turns off the smarts)
                          but the truth is only to about 65% of full charge.
                          you won't find any reference to calcium batteries on anything written by CTEC either....

                          As most automotive batteires these days are Calcium Calcium. (again nothing to say they have to be marked or identified as such)
                          you might be better off with the Redarc smart Charge...

                          www.redarc.com.au
                          or http://www.redarc.com.au/pdfs/Flyers/Smart%20Charge.pdf

                          I had a CTEC 7000 but stopped using it after I found my solar panels charging at 8 amps for 4 hours after I had "fully" charged the batteries. Turned out the batteries were only about 65% charged when i put the hydrometer in the battery.
                          I then changed over to the Redarc smart charge and can tell you that it will charge the battery to 100% which really helps when using the battery as an aux battery.

                          The other good thing is it does all three different battery types Lead acic, Gel and Calcium.. so becomes much more versitile.

                          Anyway not knocking the CTEC chargers, just need to be aware that they are only for lead acid batteries.
                          and also letting you know what worked best for me...

                          Rod
                          Black 2006 GXL TD - Brisbane

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                          • #43
                            Re: Ctek chargers?

                            From what I can gather these are the mutt's nuts. Does anyone here have any first hand experience with these? Good or bad - I'd like to hear.

                            The one I've been eyeing is the Multi SX 7000.
                            I have the 7amp. I installed it in my van instead of the manufacturers $800 unit the charge the 90ah van battery. It will also run the 12v system without a battery. I have been very happy with it.
                            White 2008 D4D and Geist LV485 Van

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                            • #44
                              Re: Ctek chargers?

                              I will soon be part of this prestigious club awaiting a CTek XS 700 from 4wdextreme on eBay :mrgreen:

                              Also ordered a comfort connect panel and cig plug adaptor. 4wdextreme is very quick to respond and also has the best prices going I can see along with several accolades on here.
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                              • #45
                                Re: Ctek chargers?

                                I am another happy Ctek 7000 user however thought I would post an issue I have just experienced . The lights on the charger were continually cycling between low charge and full charge whilst charging my caravan Gel battery. Took the charger to Battery World for testing who said it tested ok and my caravan battery was probably dud.
                                I then tried it on my Gel auxillary battery in the Prado where it did the same thing. However when I disconnected the battery, the lights kept on cycling! I then decided to check the in line output cable 2 pin socket which seemed a fraction loose. After gently closing up the female connectors in the socket I tried the charger again on both the Prado gel battery and then back in the caravan. All works fine now and the caravan battery is now charged and in float mode (green light)
                                White 2012 GXL 150 TD Auto. Work in progress. Aiming to spend less than when I kitted out the 120!

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