Odd number of driving lights illegal???

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Why not have the light mounted but not connected - call it a decorative item. Then when heading bush connect it up (plug it in) and continue on your merry way?
If the socket is hidden (cable tied back) and the light doesn't function then it shouldn't come under the ADR rules and not be a defectable item.

I know that TP does (or did) something similar, and has been over the pits to have a sticker removed, unsure what the end result of this particular item was though. As I can't find the information!

But its a thought anyway. Someone maybe confirm this?

Matt

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When i checked with DTEI here in SA, they told me all lights fitted must work, otherwise it is not legal. Since speaking to the DTEI and finding out the rules re driving lights i have noticed dozens of vehicles running "illegal" light combos. probably not real high on the list things to defect for the local plod!!

Cheers Andrew

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I went thru the inspection station at the DTEI, when he said one light doesnt work, I said, "Yeah cause its illegal if it does". He signed it off and went "well done " :wink:

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After having a 4runner with 2 spots on the front and 4 on the roof and only being stopped once (no sticker issued after owning the truck for 5 years) I thought, bugger it.

The gauntlet will be run from Monday onwards!

I'll just disconnect it if I have to...

I think a cop must be pretty bored to pull over a Prado that may have one extra spot...

The other question for those with 3 spots, how have you got them configured? I am thinking of spread in the middle with spot on each side. I notice joey has his spread on the passenger side, and 8604 (I think thats their name) has the spread in the middle.

I haven't seen anyone running 2 spreads and a spot yet...

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Planning on doing the same - that is having a spot either side and a spread in the middle.
However, I will have it 'disconnected' most of the time - unless heading bush!!!

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The other question for those with 3 spots, how have you got them configured? I am thinking of spread in the middle with spot on each side. .

Thats the way mine are.

Chriso

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After having a 4runner with 2 spots on the front and 4 on the roof and only being stopped once (no sticker issued after owning the truck for 5 years) I thought, bugger it.

The gauntlet will be run from Monday onwards!

I'll just disconnect it if I have to...

I think a cop must be pretty bored to pull over a Prado that may have one extra spot...

The other question for those with 3 spots, how have you got them configured? I am thinking of spread in the middle with spot on each side. I notice joey has his spread on the passenger side, and 8604 (I think thats their name) has the spread in the middle.

I haven't seen anyone running 2 spreads and a spot yet...

Boys,

I am your guy - I have three IPF's on my ARB Bar -
2 x spreads on either side (HID UPGRADES)
1 x spot in the centre (FACTORY HID)

This work well - my HID upgrades have a blue tinge to them but I have two factory IPF spreads at work I might swap over -
I certainly am not scared to drive at night with this combo

and if I get a ticket for having three lights.................whoops

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Babs,

besides the blue tinge to HID conversion lights is the much difference in brightness between the genuine HIDs and the conversions.

Leachy

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Babs,

besides the blue tinge to HID conversion lights is the much difference in brightness between the genuine HIDs and the conversions.

Leachy

A little - but that will have something to do with the bulbs in the upgrade kit - I had the upgrade done at ARB with their kit they sell off the shelf - so it probably my fault they dont really look the same -

But they are still better than Toyota high beam - If I had of known better when I got the ARBbar on 4 years ago I would have gone with the factory HID - they were 1/2 the price that they are now!!!!

I have two factory HIDS at work I think I will swap over so I have a uniform light pattern

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3rd spotlight is now on but haven't had a chance to try it out properly yet.

Only time will tell if this is a bad move...

Spots on either side with spread in the middle - blue covers on all.

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We are all wondering about running the gauntlet with 3 spotties on the front :shock: on the highway the other day a guy in an older 70 series ute passed me going the opposite direction, he had no less than 9, yes thats correct 9 lightforce 240's. 3 across the front of the bullbar, 2 on top of the bullbar and 4 across the front of the roof. :shock: :shock: :shock:

I wouldn't want to come across him if he forgot to dip his lights, OH and wonder if they were HID's or not :?:

Cheers Andrew

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he had no less than 9, yes thats correct 9 lightforce 240's. 3 across the front of the bullbar, 2 on top of the bullbar and 4 across the front of the roof.

If i've understood the ADR rules and regs so far, isn't 9 lights just as bad as 3, cos if he had 10 lights, then that would be ok - But 3 would still be wrong?
Surely i've miss interpretted something... ???

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Maximum of 6 forward facing lights (including headlights) so 4 spotties maximum, also they must be on the front of the vehicle (not the roof) and no higher than the headlights. OH and of course in pairs. So 7 of his 9 spotties were illegal.

Cheers Andrew

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Maximum of 6 forward facing lights (including headlights) so 4 spotties maximum, also they must be on the front of the vehicle (not the roof) and no higher than the headlights. OH and of course in pairs. So 7 of his 9 spotties were illegal.

Cheers Andrew

Ok thanks for the correction mate... I don't suppose the covered/uncovered would make a difference would it?
Say if the 4 across the top had the solid (not clear/transluscent) covers on them, would they still be counted as a forward facing?

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I take that to mean that I can fit more headlights, but they only need to be in pairs if it is possible..., so I could claim that I wanted to fit 4 lights, but it was not possible, so I fitted 3 instead...

I think I may be reading into this however I want and am trying to convince myself I can have 3 spotties - not that I want to get into an argument with a Police person...

Isn't the law wonderful, its the interpretation, and how good a lawer is in twisting it.

Ok thanks for the correction mate... I don't suppose the covered/uncovered would make a difference would it?
Say if the 4 across the top had the solid (not clear/transluscent) covers on them, would they still be counted as a forward facing?

Thats interesting, you might be onto something there :idea: . its not a light if it doesn't throw light.. altho they have to be working :| ...