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    Hi all – I have just joined Prado Point and really enjoy reading about other’s mods to their rigs.

    Question from a new member living in Mongolia – I have a regular rear door on my 120 Series but I was thinking about the possibility of hanging my 2nd spare off it rather than up on the roof rack. Obviously I’d mount the bracket as far to the left as possible so the hinges take most of the weight. Does anyone know if there’s any difference (ie internal supports, heavier duty hinges etc) between the regular rear door and the ones that are factory fitted with a wheel carrier on the door? I don’t want to go to the expense of a rear bar and wheel carrier – imports from Aus are pretty expensive here. I got a quote on a new rear with factory wheel carrier and it was quite pricey, wreckers aren’t that common here for a second hand example either. Could it be done on the regular door? What are your thoughts?

    If not a good idea to bolt a bracket directly onto the door I was thinking of a modified wheel carrier that are commonly seen on the back of 80 and 100 series here (see link below) – at least with this approach some of the weight would be off the rear door.

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rear-Bar-...-/181307944756[/U]

    Background - I live in Mongolia with my better half and kids, we bought an imported 2003 model Prado (2.7 litre petrol) when we first arrived. When we got here in early 2012 there were only a few Prados on the market, mainly the 2.7 litre jobs. There’s now plenty of them getting about – more and more of the 3.4 litre models and the occasional diesel. 99% of the older Prados are imported from Japan and the newer models from the Middle East. I kind of wish I had waited for a 3.4 litre model for a bit of extra grunt.

    When it warms up and we get out and about I’ll drop some photos on PP showing our travels. Did a great 3 week trip through central and northern Mongolia last Summer, no fences here – a great place for 4WD touring.

    Regards, Ben
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  • #2
    Hi. Just for clarification. Your Prado has the 1st spare under the car and no spare on the rear door? Does your door have hinges on the side or at the top. Ie does it swing up?

    Australian spec Prados come with rear door mounted wheel carrier and a second fuel tank under the truck as standard, where the Euro's have their spare wheel mounted. So our 'regular' is your 'irregular'.
    [SIZE=2]120 GXL D4D Auto, with a 'List of Wants' greater than the 'List of Needs' greater than the 'List of Haves'
    Nissan Patrol: Keeping Bogan's out of Toyota's since 1951[/SIZE]

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    • #3
      Good morning.

      Yes, correct - first spare positioned under the car and door hinged on side, swinging outward.

      Cheers, Ben

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      • #4
        Our doors have quite an indentation to allow the fitment of the spare wheel. here's a link to AMTS's post about his spare wheel spacer, there are a few photos there showing this.

        http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?23452-AMTS-90-120-150-Tyre-Carrier-Spacer-Light-Mount-Option


        Matt
        2003 Prado Grande TD Auto Pearl White

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        • #5
          From a brief look at Toyodiy.com the parts numbers listed for the hinges and rail sub assembly are the same parts numbers. (Even the same # as my 2008 120)
          It looks like only the outerskin of door sub assembly is what is different (but I could be wrong).

          I had to guess at your models but 2003 petrol vs diesel show the same part numbers for the rear door as well: 67005-6A800 vs 67005-6A820 for Spare Wheel Carrier under floor chain type (my 2008 lists a slightly different part 6A801vs6A821

          'Regular door': http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_200...EK_6761.4.html
          Tire carrier door: http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_200...EK_6761.3.html

          It looks like the factroy carrier just bolts through - http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_200...GPEK_5153.html

          Have a browse through the site to see
          [SIZE=2]120 GXL D4D Auto, with a 'List of Wants' greater than the 'List of Needs' greater than the 'List of Haves'
          Nissan Patrol: Keeping Bogan's out of Toyota's since 1951[/SIZE]

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          • #6
            Hi Matt - question is, could I mount a bracket like that on my rear door, which is currently not designed or equipped with a wheel carrier, without having to upgrade hinges? If I did so am I likely to have big issues with door sag? I understand that the tyre would not sit flush with the rear door as my door doesn't have the indentation to accommodate the spare. I may need to add some additional support inside the rear door paneling so the bolts are well anchored and structurally supported.

            Cheers

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            • #7
              Thanks r4ndll. I'll remove the paneling inside the rear door and see how I can add some structural support for mounting the bracket.

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              • #8
                Just check the door is strong enough. I'm only going off what I can see

                Good luck
                [SIZE=2]120 GXL D4D Auto, with a 'List of Wants' greater than the 'List of Needs' greater than the 'List of Haves'
                Nissan Patrol: Keeping Bogan's out of Toyota's since 1951[/SIZE]

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