Changing Oil - Again

[jeff s Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close jeff s]

Hi John.

Thats interesting.
I get the 5000 done at my local service guy (not Toyota)
New oil & filters every 5000.

I dont think its much more money to do the filter as well.
I was sure the book said oil and filters.. Ill look later.

Jeff.

[DarkHorse Member Find all posts View Profile Close DarkHorse]

Well I finally did it. Got used oil everywhere and a little in the sump drain. Tried removing the "old" filter with the supercheap special, didnt work, wouldnt even get a hold of the filter.

By this stage we had no car, only a push bike so went down to Coventry Auto's and got a 3 jaw type remover. Again no luck (not much room to move). Then went to Repco and got a 3 jaw type metal end remover/wrench.

This managed to loosen the old filter just enough for me to screw it off by hand. Followed the instructions on the WorkShop manual CD to put on the new filter. Trouble is I could only do it up by hand! The remover was just that a remover not a tightener!

Filled it up with oil (7.4L) checked all items again and started the engine. Low oil light was on for a few seconds and that was it.

Ran the engine for 3 minutes, checked for leaks and nothing obvious.

The missus had to use the car to pick up the young ones and do some running around, I warned her if the oil light comes on pull over immediately and shut off the engine.

When she got back I checked the sump plug area for leaks and where the oil filter is fitted. Noticed a small amount of oil around the filter where it meets up with the engine! :shock:

I dont know if it is:

1. I put too much oil on the gasket before fiting the new filter. or

2. The filter itself is not tight enough.

Now the instructions state that to tighten up and then another 3/4 turn with the SST. I dont know how much I tighten it.

Any suggestions? I am a little scared of doing/done damage to my new Prado.

Regards,


Rob

[Fazza Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Fazza]

DarkHorse,
Good name when play with diesel oil, (Sorry Rob.)

I would wash around the oily area with some de-greaser & re-check.

As you mentioned (tighten up & then another 3/4 turn) should be nip up & 3/4 turn. I can't believe you have overtightened it as for the difficulty with the removal. (Maybe not tight enough)?

Just out of interest, was there a drain hose already fitted to your D4D filter tray?

All a lot of fun. Cheers

Fazza

[jeff s Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close jeff s]

When they say "wind up by hand then 3/4 turn" they mean to wind it lightly by hand untill it stops turning.
Just light finger pressure will do.
It stops turning because the rubber gasket has come in contact with the sealing face.
The engineers know the pitch of the thresd for the filter and 3/4's of a turn would equal a certain amount of sqish.
EG. if its a 2mm pitch would be 1.5mm of squish.
Its not rocket science just a good indication the you have enough squish of the rubber seal. If you did it by hand and only got 1/2 a turn I think you would be OK, and also if you got 1 turn you would be OK.
Did you use the strap type filter wrench for the 3/4 turn?
It is allways easier to move the filter without damage when installing them as the ruber hasn't had any time to grab the metal.


Hope that helps. But just clean it like fazza said and check after a bit of driving.

Jeff.

[John Member Find all posts View Profile Close John]

Rob, it sounds as though the original might have been overtightened at the factory. In over 20 years of using a strap wrench I've never had any probs. Like others have intimated here, I'd only hand tighten the filter when installing. It ain't gonna come undone!

[DarkHorse Member Find all posts View Profile Close DarkHorse]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I cleaned the area last night and it has been on its morning run. So far no oil present

Interesting exercise, especially for someone like me that is VERY mechanically challenged.

Fazza, my car is an April 07 build and it has the tube fitted. Very little oil, if anything at all, came out of the filter when I finally was able to remove it, probably because it took so long.

Now being a diesel where do I find the spark plugs?? :wink:

Regards,


Rob