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Oh, yeah, right, the 101's!
You didnt happen to measure their length (the HD's) while you had them did you???
You didnt happen to measure their length (the HD's) while you had them did you???
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Marc, 2003 Grande V6, Just a Bit of Stuff Done.....
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Alas no... But here are the pics of old vs new...
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Well theres something wrong right there!.
The original are supposed to be 370mm and the HD's are supposed to be the same length and they look considrably longer in the pics.
Unless your originals have sagged badly?
Whats the length of your originals then?Marc, 2003 Grande V6, Just a Bit of Stuff Done..........Work in progress.
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Good point Marc!. Just measured, - 355mm (15mm sag)
The other spring was 350mm. The front of my Prado was sitting very low sitting at 710mm.2004 V6 Grande. BLACK -Comment
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Geez, they have sagged!
My old ones were at 365 when removed.
I still cant work out whats going on with the rest of it though
Last edited by 1coolbanana; 08-09-2011, 07:24 AM.Marc, 2003 Grande V6, Just a Bit of Stuff Done..........Work in progress.
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Just a quick warning about buying a non genuine CV joint.... I did this and learnt the hard way - see my post about this http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...078#post290078Originally posted by Davros View Post[b]2006 GXL Prado 1GR-FE [/b]- ARB Lockers & Bar, Tigerz11 Winch, snorkle, Custom Bash Gaurd & Steps, AJ4x4 Rear Bar, Spotties, UHF, Dual batt, 33" KM2s, Custom drawers, Ext Icon Coilovers, 4" SRC Shockies, Dobinson 4" Springs, Diff drop, Light Racing UCA's, Ext SS brake lines, Driveshaft spacer, Superior trailing arms, Nitro 4.56 diff gears, DBA Slotted brakes, TRD Supercharger, Bullet Ultimate Exhaust, XEDE Dual map ProcessorComment
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Thanks for the word of warning Double D... I will quiz my Toyota mechanic a little harder before I commit as I have a mechanic I believe I can rely on...2004 V6 Grande. BLACK -Comment
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Yeah well the people that made the aftermarket joint I bought didn't know it was a problem as they'd never fitted one with a prado with so much flex! Still almost 2" less travel than genuine....that's taking the piss a bit[b]2006 GXL Prado 1GR-FE [/b]- ARB Lockers & Bar, Tigerz11 Winch, snorkle, Custom Bash Gaurd & Steps, AJ4x4 Rear Bar, Spotties, UHF, Dual batt, 33" KM2s, Custom drawers, Ext Icon Coilovers, 4" SRC Shockies, Dobinson 4" Springs, Diff drop, Light Racing UCA's, Ext SS brake lines, Driveshaft spacer, Superior trailing arms, Nitro 4.56 diff gears, DBA Slotted brakes, TRD Supercharger, Bullet Ultimate Exhaust, XEDE Dual map ProcessorComment
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I cannot take any responsibility for any (mis)calculations that I make, especially since Craig's results did surprise me also. However, IMHO if you have a ride height of 790mm with a 370mm @ 800lb/in spring then my calculations tell me that a longer spring with a free height of 375-380mm @ 800lb/in is required for an extra 15mm lift.Originally posted by 1coolbanana View Post
Only Dobinsons/Ridepro and ARB make a longer coil, but at a reduced rate, so probably a free length of about 400mm @ 617lb/in is needed for a ride height of around 805mm. I would talk to Dobinsons about exactly what could be achieved with either their C59-302 (395mm @ 617lb/in) or C59-314 (405mm @ 617lb/in) spring. If you don't like the blue/green colour of the Dobinsons spring, then go for a Ridepro ZC7302 (395mm @ 617lb/in) or ZC7314 (405mm @ 617lb/in) also made by Dobinsons, but painted black.
Dobinsons can be contacted on 07 4927 7444."Sure it’s quiet, for a diesel, but that’s like being well-behaved… for a murderer."- Jeremy ClarksonComment
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Thansk Peter.
I actually spoke to the Dobinson guys on Friday and they recommended C59-302 but of course, thats just a semi calculated guess and no responsibility accepted if it doesnt work out
Shame I cant just use a spring spacer/packer!
I also enquired about the Ironman trim packers but they are adamant that they will ONLY work with Ironman struts and nothing else.
The 120 version trim packer are metal packers but no one can tell me what they look like or why they dont fit other brands.Marc, 2003 Grande V6, Just a Bit of Stuff Done..........Work in progress.
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How about a strut spacer?Comment
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Marc,
I suspect the Ironman spacer actually fits between a sliding spring seat and a fixed collar on the Ironman strut. The Ultimate Suspension use a similar system to adjust the spring seat height on their struts. I found this picture with a Google image search:
A 5mm strut spacer will give about 10mm lift, but will also increase the total downward suspension travel (droop) to about 900mm by increasing the strut length of the TD strut to 569mm. With this sort of travel you may need to fit a diff drop to stop the CV from binding and the upper control arm will probably contact the spring at full travel.Originally posted by amts View Post"Sure it’s quiet, for a diesel, but that’s like being well-behaved… for a murderer."- Jeremy ClarksonComment
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Marc,
You could also fit Toughdog Hilux front struts, but the spring seat is fitted 15-20mm higher on the Hilux strut, which would give you a ride height of about 820-830mm and all the wheel alignment issues that are associated with that height."Sure it’s quiet, for a diesel, but that’s like being well-behaved… for a murderer."- Jeremy ClarksonComment
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Hi AndrewOriginally posted by amts View Post
The problem with the strut spacer is that because the Tough Dog has so much extension that at max droop the UCA just touches the spring now.
Unfortunately the strut spacer will exaggerate that and max droop will end up with too much interference with the spring.
It may also create CV issues
I need to maintain the current max droop and just try and pre-load the spring a little more or a different spring.
Yeah, dont want to go there as the UCA already touches, not to mention the other issues.Originally posted by Peterpilot View PostMarc,
I suspect the Ironman spacer actually fits between a sliding spring seat and a fixed collar on the Ironman strut. The Ultimate Suspension use a similar system to adjust the spring seat height on their struts. I found this picture with a Google image search:
Awwww, bugger, that wont work for me and the TD then
A 5mm strut spacer will give about 10mm lift, but will also increase the total downward suspension travel (droop) to about 900mm by increasing the strut length of the TD strut to 569mm. With this sort of travel you may need to fit a diff drop to stop the CV from binding and the upper control arm will probably contact the spring at full travel.
Been thinking about that too, and may be a possibility with a shorter spring, but like you say, many other problems associated with doing that.Originally posted by Peterpilot View PostLast edited by 1coolbanana; 12-09-2011, 08:05 AM.Marc, 2003 Grande V6, Just a Bit of Stuff Done..........Work in progress.
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Let me know if you need the diff drop spacer. The bashplates already cater for a diff drop.Originally posted by 1coolbanana View PostIt may also create CV issuesComment
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