Suspension Measurements 2

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Old measurements with stock Suspension. ARB deluxe bar, dual batteries and ARB compressor fitted up front.
FR 730
RR 771
FL 729
RL 772

After fitting Lovells MD 50mm coils and Bilstein Shocks with circlip on Middle position.
FR 772
RR 829
FL 775
RL 828

Forgot to add, that you can change the front strut without touching the steering arm or removing the sway bar and bash plate.

Update on the upgrade. So far done a shiteload of driving on it:
Highway driving is good - fair bit less body roll, slightly smoother ride. Touch more wind noise.
Offroad - a lot more comfy, even the wife and kids noticed straight away the difference, wife has a bad back so she whinges a bit No more issue with dips or crests at speed. Corrugations = a lot less banging around and less movement of the vehicle on the track.
On/offroad towing - a shedload better.

All in all, a very happy upgrade path. Should have done it a lot earlier!

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I've been reading all the height measurements but I’m particularly interested in the droop measurements some people have posted.

However I’m a bit confused as Double_D posted a RR/RL measurement of 850/855 and said only 20mm droop in the rear. Another post had a rear measurement of 860 and someone said there wouldn't be much down travel left in the shocks.

What is confusing me is my rear is around 850mm and I have a lot more droop than 20mm. Perhaps I’m not understanding droop or how to measure it. I lifted a wheel off the ground on a track and measured from the bottom of the rim through the centre to the wheel arch and subtracted my normal flat ground value and got a figure around 125mm. Am I measuring wrong? What is a normal amount of droop at an average rear height of say 820?

I have OME 896 springs with 60004 shocks. I will measure again and post exact measurements when I get a chance.

Sorry my measurements were at the shock, not at the wheel... so at the shock I only had 20mm left of downtravel... with the TD I have 80mm, this would equal a lot more at the wheel when flexed up.

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Old suspension measurements with a Sov bar and near MT tanks
FL =738mm
FR = 740mm
RL = 770mm
RR = 774mm

Fitted OME 884s to front, 895s to rear, with Nitro shocks all round
FL =815mm
FR = 815mm
RL = 825mm
RR = 825mm

The most notable difference on a short trip into town was the reduction in body roll
Dual battery goes in tomorrow

[rabs Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rabs]

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Old measurements - (no accessories)
FL =760mm
FR = 760mm
RL = 780mm
RR = 780mm

Fitted OME 884s to front, 895s to rear, with Nitro shocks all round
FL =804mm
FR = 805mm
RL = 818mm
RR = 820mm

Will remeasure later in the week as had TJM outbackbar fitted and now waiting for new sumpguard and tranmission guard to be fitted

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Question re. sagging springs: My rear OME springs -895- have sagged unevenly . They have done 17000 km including 11000 km on recent CSR trip. The LHS rear has sagged more than the RHS and this was apparrent before the trip. I tend to leave the 2nd tank full so there is the battery and the tank on that side. LF down from 795 to 785;RF down from 795 to 790- both acceptable. For the rears the LH is down from 813 to 793 ]bad!] while the RH has gone UP from 810 to 820!!! -possibly because the LH is down 20mm- unacceptable. The question is: is this a warranty issue? OR, since I am soon to put some polyairs in should I just put a bit more in the lhs OR stick a spacer in. If the latter, where do I get them? other than that I have been very happy with this set up with the new Nitrocharger shocks. When you look at the car from the front it looks lopsided. Neil

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ring the arb store you got them from and have a chat to them or better still take the vehicle down to them and see what they say, if they do the right thing you should get a favourable outcome. cheers samo

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Hi all

Over the last year I have been keeping a record of my suspension hight. All measurements are of the front suspension and have been even within a mil or 2.

Before ARB delux Bar fitment 745mm(10Mar10)
After Fit 730mm(11Mar10)with winch
Later 725mm(1Jun10)
After sec Battery 720mm(20Dec10)

After OME Suspension upgrade,

Front 790mm
Back 810mm

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Some more stats for the collective data pool:

07 GXL V6 manual approx. 85500km
ARB Deluxe bullbar
ARB rated towing package

Have just installed raised Kings (KTFR-101, KTRR-102) and Bilsteins (BE5-A712, BE5-A713).

Heights (measured vertically from bottom of rim to wheel arch) pre- and post-lift

Front R 735mm -> 795mm L 735mm -> 795mm
Rear R 778mm -> 828mm L 778mm -> 828mm

Overall vehicle height to top of roof rails (50l petrol in the tank) = 1.95m

Paul

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Hi All

New to PP and after looking at site, just done my 1st upgrade. Installed Lovell springs (TFS-118 Front, TRR-119 Rear) and Bilstein (BE5-A712 Front, BE5-A713 rear) - with 50mm lift, measurements before/after- with less 1/4 tank fuel

FL 745 >>> 790
FR 745 >>> 795

RL 775 >>> 835
RR 780 >>> 845

They want me to take back after 1,000kms after settling in to check - sooo much better than standard

Kim

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Hey All,

I just got some OME Nitrocharger sports fitted to my Prado.
Looks and feels great.

Model was 90000 (front) and 60004 (rear)for shocks
Springs were 884 (front) and 895 (Rear)

Before
FL=725mm FR=725mm (real low because of steel bullbar)

RL=780mm RR=785mm

After
FL=805mm FR=805mm

RL=830 RR=825mm

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some nice lift there ausbass you would have to be happy with that. cheers samo

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Yeah real happy.
Will see how much it drops after it has settled in.
Might try to get some photo's of it and post them up.

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After 2 years, a new bar and a winch the numbers had settled considerably.

Front: 745mm
Rear: 800mm

So I had some Dobinson HD springs fitted all round. Here's the new numbers (including 2 full tanks, 2 batteries, drawers, fridge and rooftop tent all over the rear)

Front: 800mm
Rear: 840mm

I was told that at this height the shocks don't have enough travel (short by about 10mm) so will be hoping for a little bit of settling. The guy who fitted them said Dobinson are starting to use their Hilux front struts on the Prados as they have more travel. Does anyone have any info to support/debunk this?

Sovereign Bull Bar, nothing in back, 90lt of fuel

Before...
Front: 738mm
Rear: 770mm

After fitting Tough Dog 30mm lift kit with medium springs...
Front: 770mm
Rear: 830mm

I would have preferred a bit more at the front and less at the rear but when both tanks are full and the back is loaded it levels out nicely. Improvement offroad is out of sight regardless.

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2004 V6 Prado Grande, stock standard, full fuel:

Front: 735mm

Rear: 780mm, 745mm lo, 815mm hi

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2003 Grande 100k klm's V6 4L
Dead stock at the moment, no bar, no winch and looking to do a lift in the next few weeks.
Measured from flair to bottom of rim.

Stock:
FL = 745 FR = 740

RL = 790 RR = 780

See how the lift goes