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    1coolbanana
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  • 1coolbanana
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    When I installed my TDC974HD springs (and struts) it was sitting at 790mm from bottom of the rim with a massive 100mm of travel left.
    Im running the ARB bar and a winch (which is only another 20kg) and its been good for years now, not too hard at all.

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    Originally posted by vantheshark View Post
    I'll take photo tonight. It was the ToughDog H/D Springs
    Not good/compatible with just the bullbar installed.

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  • Whitey
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  • Whitey
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    Hey van,

    860mm ride height on a 712 strut would be record breaking in many bad ways!

    It seems unlikely that you would have measured incorrectly...from the ground would mean subtracting in the order of 150mm, which would put you at 710mm, which you would only see on very sagged coils.

    I would avoid driving at high speeds if your front end is really at 860mm, you very likely have almost zero droop, and on cambered high speed bends you will lift a wheel, resulting in a dangerous handling situation.

    Can you redo your measurements again, and confirm you are measuring in the same manner as the first photo in this thread;

    http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...Measurements-2

    If possible, you should also check how much droop you have by jacking the front end off the ground (both sides) on to jack stands.

    It is likely you have close to zero droop, which means you will not only have bad handling, you will kill the 712 struts with topouts very quickly.

    The culprit in this undesirable 860mm ride height is your coils of course, and this would be a consecutive week where I've seen after market King coils used by third parties (Tough Dog, TJM) giving ludicrously high lifts with unnecessarily high spring rates.

    Look forward to seeing your double checked measurements!

    Best

    Mark

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  • photoprado
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  • photoprado
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    Is 86cm to the bottom of the rim, or to the ground? Doesn't sound right...

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  • vantheshark
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  • vantheshark
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    Originally posted by mjrandom View Post
    Is it still on the jack stands? Your droop will be 0.0mm. Or less.
    On ground and with the TJM bar installed :?

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  • vantheshark
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  • vantheshark
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    Originally posted by amts View Post
    86cm at the front is way too high. What coils did you use and is the bottom spring seat installed the right way up? Have you got any photos?
    I'll take photo tonight. It was the ToughDog H/D Springs installed by my mechanic 2 months ago when I did the "full service".
    Probably the only person happy with the setup is my daughter as she is always lying face up on her car seat

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  • mjrandom
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  • mjrandom
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    Is it still on the jack stands? Your droop will be 0.0mm. Or less.

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    86cm at the front is way too high. What coils did you use and is the bottom spring seat installed the right way up? Have you got any photos?

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  • vantheshark
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  • vantheshark
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    Not sure what's going on to my poor vehicle but here are the figures:

    Before
    Front left: don't quite remember
    Front right: don't quite remember
    Rear left: 72.5 cm
    Rear right: 73.8cm

    After (Front A712 + TD spring >.<, Rear: OEM bags + atms' spacer, haven't fooled the height control sensors yet)
    Front left: 86cm
    Front right: 86cm
    Rear left: 73cm
    Rear right: 73.5cm


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    vantheshark
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    Last edited by vantheshark; 04-07-2016, 03:24 PM.

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  • Mickey_Jay
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  • Mickey_Jay
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    G'day everyone,

    This thread is very helpful in seeing how different brands and models of springs will affect my ride height.

    I have an 09 120 V6 with an ARB deluxe bar and standard suspension. I am going to fit a winch, King springs and Drivetech shocks soon. I will post up the results once I have it all fitted.

    Before
    Front left: 725mm
    Front right: 730mm
    Rear left: 770mm
    Rear right: 775mm

    After
    Front left: TBA
    Front right: TBA
    Rear left: TBA
    Rear right: TBA

    Cheers,

    Michael

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  • ILLO
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    I recently had OME suspension fitted to my Prado. At the front, 884 springs and 9000 shocks. At the back 895 and 60004 shocks. Here is an update.

    Before
    Front left: 770mm
    Front right: 773mm
    Rear left: 779mm
    Rear right: 780mm

    After
    Front left: 794mm
    Front right: 797mm
    Rear left: 816mm
    Rear right: 818

    Cv angle is almost horrizontal. I am very happy with the results.

    Cheers,

    Javier

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  • Wtrxprs007
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  • Wtrxprs007
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    Recently had bilstein shocks and King springs put in. Haven't got the rear shocks changed yet because I couldn't get the old shocks off so just had front struts and rear springs in for the time being.
    Car has ARB Deluxe Winch bar.
    King Spring numbers were KTFR-101 and KTRR-102.

    Before:
    Front Left: 730mm
    Front Right: 735mm
    Rear Left: 770
    Rear Right: 780mm

    After:
    Front Left: 800mm
    Front Right: 802mm
    Rear Left: 811mm
    Rear right: 825mm

    Noticed since installing the lift that the inner CV boots are squirting grease all over the place so going to plan on getting boot kit and replacing them or just get new shafts. Now the question with shafts, if I were to get new shafts, should I go for standard oem ones or extended ones?

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  • Bschotty
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  • Bschotty
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    OME lift went in last week
    I've got ARB Deluxe bar (steel) and 4mm Bushskinz underbody plates. Petrol V6 GXL.
    No dual battery or winch yet.
    2884's front. 2895's rear.
    Nitro sport.

    Before:
    FL-730 FR-725
    RL-770 RR-770

    After:
    FL-805 FR-795
    RL-820 RR-815

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  • ILLO
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    Thanks again amts, that's exactly what I will do. I can hardly wait to have the Safari Snorkel an new OME suspension fitted.

    Cheers,

    Javier

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  • Guest
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  • Guest
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    I would remove the front spacers and go OME884 at the front. OME895 will be fine at the rear.

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