Body Lift Kits

[ando Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ando]

Was thinking about getting a 1 to 2 inch body lift for my 120 prado. Already have suspension lift. Has anyone had it done to their 120 or know where it can be done?

Ando

[McBAIN Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close McBAIN]

i'm a little green on this subject, but what's the difference? i understand suspension lift (i've had my share of cars lowered) but what's involved with a "body" lift?

[Addy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Addy]

Suspension lift chassis and body move higher from ground.
Body Lift only body is lifted higher. Chassis does not get higher from the ground.
Hope that makes sense.

[McBAIN Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close McBAIN]

Suspension lift chassis and body move higher from ground.
Body Lift only body is lifted higher. Chassis does not get higher from the ground.
Hope that makes sense.

so if the objective of a lift would be to gain more clearance.. what's a body lift do for you? just make the seat higher?

[Yota Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close Yota]

Addy wrote:
Suspension lift chassis and body move higher from ground.
Body Lift only body is lifted higher. Chassis does not get higher from the ground.
Hope that makes sense.


so if the objective of a lift would be to gain more clearance.. what's a body lift do for you? just make the seat higher?

Allows bigger tyres

Was looking into a body lift on my 90, and desided against it, as the air bags compatability would require a lot of work and engineer cirtificuits

[McBAIN Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close McBAIN]

Allows bigger tyres

aah, now me understands.

sorry for the thread hijack!

[Frank R Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Frank R]

Careful when doing lift & tyres, with regards to insurance. State laws vary from state to state on what is allowable and therefore if they are not met the insurance companies will not pay out in the event of a claim. i.e in VIC lift no more than 50mm obove OME allowed and tyre size difference of 50mm + or - from OME. There was a good right up with links to the govt web sites on LCOOL forum.

[ando Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ando]

Looked into the body lift but too difficult. Reason for wanting lift was as follows:
Can only do 2.5 inch suspension lift without straining components. But if was able to do body lift as well (another 2 inches), would give more clearance for water crossings and mud work. Less chance of interior car damage. Some people do body lifts for bigger tyres and also allows for more articulation depending on suspension set up.
Oh well, just have to be content with suspension lift.

[ando Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ando]

Cheers wengnuts. Had them fitted few weeks ago. Just trying to get the most lift out of the prado. All good.

[Ghostriderhusky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ghostriderhusky]

Not sure if you went ahead with the body lift on the 120... But I just ordered my 2" blocks. Ill be fitting it up very soon.

Don't ask about legalities , because it isn't. Also fitting up some 35" tyres as I allready have 2" suspension lift aswell

[Chris220220 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chris220220]

From what I have read the issue with a body lift is adjusting everything. You need to extend the fuel filler for starters. Also some wiring may be stretched to its limits.
Looked like too much work to me.

[wholesalesuspension Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close wholesalesuspension]

Hi guys.

I don't want to be a downer, but as far as i'm aware it is not legal to do a body lift on any vehicle that is equipped with SRS airbags.
It can affect the crash sensors located on the inner guards & inside the body as these will no longer crumple at the same rates as they would have with the body in it's original position.
It could lead to an early deployment of the airbag in an accident or no deployment at all.

Regards, Jason.

[mjrandom Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close mjrandom]

I don't think grh is too bothered about legalities since he will be running 35s.

For what it is worth in Qld the body lift rules are covered by the QCOP where anything with ESC is a tough ask. However without ESC the following applies:

High Lift - 50mm to 125mm (Design)
CODE LS9

1. Scope
Code LS9 provides for the preparation of designs that may be approved by Registration
Authorities for use by other signatories or modifiers. The designs under Code LS9 cover the design
of vehicle lifts in excess of 50mm but not more than 125mm.

Vehicle lifts that do not exceed 75mm, and are achieved by modification of the suspension and
fitting of alternate tyres and rims only (do not include a body lift) do not require certification
under the LS9 code. Any person performing this type of modification must ensure the modified
vehicle meets all the technical requirements of the LS9 and LS10 sections of this code, however no
formal certification or lane change test is required.


3.3 Body Blocks
Body blocks between the vehicle body and the chassis must comply with the following:

• The material must be of similar strength and durability as the original components;
• All assemblies and piping that spans between the body and the chassis must be suitable for the
increased distance; and
Queensland Code of Practice – Vehicle Modifications, Transport and Main Roads, November 2012 Page
29 of 210
• The increase in height due to body block modifications alone is limited to 50mm.

3.6 Vehicle Dynamics
These modifications, where the height of the centre of mass (centre of gravity) of an existing
vehicle is increased, can have a significant influence on the handling/rollover characteristics
of the completed vehicle. The height that a particular vehicle can be raised is governed by
the ability to safely negotiate and fully comply with the Lane Change Test as outlined in Section
LT Test Procedures (Code LT2) in the NCOP. Lane change tests are required for vehicles that have
been raised by more than 50mm.

While Code LS9 allows for an overall vehicle height increase of 125mm maximum, this will be limited
by the vehicle’s ability to safely negotiate the lane change test as mentioned
above.

High Lift - 50mm to 125mm (Modification)
CODE LS10

1. Scope
Code LS10 covers modifications that result in a vehicle lift of more than 50mm but not more than
125mm.

The conversions may be carried out in conformity with designs approved by a Registration
Authority under Code LS9.

So a body lift is ok if engineered in Qld on a vehicle that wasn't fitted with ESC from the factory. That plus 33s (old speak) and a 50mm suspension lift provided it all works properly. The testing regime for ESC equipped vehicles is much more onerous. I was actually looking to do a body lift on the Rodeo (25mm) from Superior Eng but the muddies clear fine so wont bother now.

[Chris220220 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chris220220]

It is ok till you have a prang and work out you have no isurance to fix your car or anything else you smash up.
I know about 10yrs ago a Telstra pillar on the side of the road would cost you $10K if you flattened one and a few grand for a light pole.
If you you want that much height maybe your better off with a cruiser or patrol.

[Ghostriderhusky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ghostriderhusky]

Jeez you guys are a bunch of old whinging men.

Airbags are not affected whatsoever with body lift that's fact.

Hundred of new hilixs run body lift and 35" . We are essentially the same car

I not interested in your 31" all terrain preaching

Just simply stating the fact I'm doing body lift. People who are interested follow , if not, go away