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  • Wheel Cover fit over BFG A/T 275/65R17

    Hi Guys,

    I've just found out my spare Tyre under the factory hard wheel cover is size '265/65R17' but my car had almost new BFG A/T '275/65R17' from when I bought it (Just under a year ago) - Luckily touch wood not had a flat. I was going to take it to the Tyre place and see if I can get a spare the same brand and size but I want to know if anyone has tried to fit a wheel cover on with this size Tyre?

    I couldn't seem to find a thread for this size Tyre so sorry if there is already one

    Cheers
    Black 120 Grande 2003 "MY4BEE", 4L V6 Petrol 4SP Auto, BFG All Terrain 275/65/R17, Rola Racks, ARB Deluxe Bar, AirbagMan OA6011 Airbag's, Bilstein Shocks, Front King Coils, Eclipse BEC108 reversing camera, LightForce Spotties, Ironman Awning, ARB Outback Storage Drawers, Uniden 80ch UHF, Waeco CFX-65DZ, Oztent RV3.
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  • #2
    My 275/65/17 Bridgestone fits easily enough.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by yowie View Post
      My 275/65/17 Bridgestone fits easily enough.
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      • #4
        Thanks Guys!
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        • #5
          Is this for a 120 or 150?
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          • #6
            Ah damn just realised I posted in the 150 thread. Sorry guys..

            My dad just got the same tyres as mine on his 120 and found the 120 cover won't fit but the 150 will. Good to know but I prefer the 120 cover.. Oh well I'd rather have the correct spare!
            Black 120 Grande 2003 "MY4BEE", 4L V6 Petrol 4SP Auto, BFG All Terrain 275/65/R17, Rola Racks, ARB Deluxe Bar, AirbagMan OA6011 Airbag's, Bilstein Shocks, Front King Coils, Eclipse BEC108 reversing camera, LightForce Spotties, Ironman Awning, ARB Outback Storage Drawers, Uniden 80ch UHF, Waeco CFX-65DZ, Oztent RV3.
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            • #7
              To carry on from this......

              Does anyone know if the 150 Cover will fit over the BFG All Terrain in the 265 / 70 / 17 size? Clearly from the above posts the 275 / 65 / 17 fits, but I was looking to go up a size.

              Thanks in advance
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              • #8
                I have a question. Why fit 275 width tyres when this wider tyre reduces traction in off road conditions and puts a shock loading on the drive line components??
                2007 120 GX, automatic, diesel, 2in lift Bilsteins King springs, rear swaybar extended link pins, ARB lockers, TJM bull bar and bash plate, dual AGM batteries, Provent 200, Donaldson prefilter, Uniden UHF radio, IPF driving lights, Koita fog lights, roofrack

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kitbags View Post
                  I have a question. Why fit 275 width tyres when this wider tyre reduces traction in off road conditions and puts a shock loading on the drive line components??
                  does it...?
                  2011 150series GXL

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                  • #10
                    Ditch the cover. Drive around and let people think that you might actually put your car in a position where the spare may be needed. Besides, I've already found 2 x 150 covers and 1 x 120 cover discarded along outback roads in my travels. Just something else to rattle and come loose. Show off those BFGs with pride.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kitbags View Post
                      I have a question. Why fit 275 width tyres when this wider tyre reduces traction in off road conditions and puts a shock loading on the drive line components??
                      Why do you say that?

                      Wider tyres in the same series are larger, so more clearance would be one reason.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kitbags View Post
                        I have a question. Why fit 275 width tyres when this wider tyre reduces traction in off road conditions and puts a shock loading on the drive line components??
                        Why??

                        Hutch- Prado 2012 petrol with the TJM Catologue.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kitbags View Post
                          I have a question. Why fit 275 width tyres when this wider tyre reduces traction in off road conditions and puts a shock loading on the drive line components??
                          Don't get confused by wider tyre = less pressure = less grip. It doesn't work that way. Grip is all about the tread pattern and conformance with the road or surface being driven on. For example I run 285s on the back of the Clubbie and the same tyre in 245 by your reckoning would give me more grip but it doesn't. They fry. So do the 285s but not as fast

                          As for shock loading that is how the power is transmitted and not a function of the tyre size.

                          As Andrew has said most of us fit the 275 for the extra 15 or 20mm in diameter, the extra 10mm in width isn't discernable. Certainly with BFGs where a 265 and a 275 are barely any different in width but a whole lot nicer in height. Compared to the stock tyres they are much taller. But don't tell the insurers.
                          Last edited by mjrandom; 24-05-2013, 07:40 PM. Reason: diameter is twice the radius!
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                          • #14
                            Wheel cover had been removed and BFG spare is now shown with Pride

                            To be honest I never choose the size, I bought the car with these tyres and couldn't fault them - they wear evenly, give great clearance even with the grande only being standard height at the moment and have never had an issue with traction on or off road. Great all rounder and seem to be popular on the Prado's!

                            I can't quite understand how they can reduce traction and put a shock loading on the drive line components though ?
                            Black 120 Grande 2003 "MY4BEE", 4L V6 Petrol 4SP Auto, BFG All Terrain 275/65/R17, Rola Racks, ARB Deluxe Bar, AirbagMan OA6011 Airbag's, Bilstein Shocks, Front King Coils, Eclipse BEC108 reversing camera, LightForce Spotties, Ironman Awning, ARB Outback Storage Drawers, Uniden 80ch UHF, Waeco CFX-65DZ, Oztent RV3.
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                            • #15
                              My post was about tyre tread width not the performance of other tyre variables So lets start with two tyres that have the same treads and construction. The only difference being tyre profile and diameter.
                              A tyre's grip is influenced by the length of the footprint in the direction of travel and the width of the footprint. The length of a footprint is determined by the tyre height. The taller the tyre the longer the foot print in the direction of travel. A taller tyre with a narrower width has a vastly different grip and slipping characteristic to a smaller diameter wider tread tyre. Although not as extreme a much wider tyre of the same diameter will display the same characteristics. Comparative tests of these two senarios loaded to tyre slipping loss of traction have been conducted.
                              I was a dealer for a company who were experienced a spate of drive line failures. These failures were examined by the manufacturers engineers. They determined they were caused by sudden shock loads not inherent weaknesses in the product. Their investigations found that the failures were linked to the fitting of very wide tyres. Both owners and dealers were replacing the standard tyres. They organised a series of demonstrations to show us the difference in traction characteristics. They were conducted with a load determining hydralic coupling on the same model vehicles so loads were exactly the same. I attended these offroad field trials. Vehicles were brought up to loss of traction then allowed to skid and gain traction again.
                              The results were consistant. A taller tyre will start to slip in a progressive manner and will also gain traction in a progressive manner. The result is progressive loading on the driveline. The wider tyre will grip right up to the point of loss of traction then break traction instantly. It will also gain traction instantly when spinning. Another characteristic of a wide tyre is the jumping up and down as it gains and loses and gains traction as it spins. This is felt by the driver as quick shuddering. This puts a severe shock load on the driveline. The weakest point in the vehicles differential(s) gearbox tailshaft(s) is found in a dramatic fashion. To state that drive line shock can not be caused by our tyres profile is totally incorrect.
                              Another traction determining factor is the pressure in the tyres. We have all seen tyres worn on the two outside edges of the tread caused by under inflation. The under inflated tyre has only the outer edges of the tread working and this results in premature wear of these outer parts of the tread. Look at the skid marks on highways. You will see some individual tyre skid marks that have only two parallel black skid marks with nothing in the center. The center of the tread has so little contact with the road that it does not even leave a skid mark. A wider tyre looks impressive but how much of that wide tread is fully working when tyres are let down? This is determined by the vehicles weight and the profile of the tread. Off road tyres have either a flat tread with heavier square shoulders or a more rounded tread and shoulder. There is nothing wrong with either. Problems arise when excessive over width tyres are fitted. Next time you watch an extreme rock crawl 4x4 event check out the jumping up and down of the extra wide tyred specialist 4x4s as they lose and gain traction. No wonder they fit huge strength driveline components. Even so they break drive line components regularly.You can actually see the above for yourself at tractor pull competitions held at machinery shows as well as on the extreme 4x4 TV shows.
                              The single most dominant factor in traction is the length of the footprint in the direction of travel. All other traction considerations are secondary. But hey wide tyres look cool, so tough,so if dats wat yu want. Free country your choice.
                              2007 120 GX, automatic, diesel, 2in lift Bilsteins King springs, rear swaybar extended link pins, ARB lockers, TJM bull bar and bash plate, dual AGM batteries, Provent 200, Donaldson prefilter, Uniden UHF radio, IPF driving lights, Koita fog lights, roofrack

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