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Does anyone has any mud experience with COOPER ATR tyres?
I really need your opinion guys...
thanks
I really need your opinion guys...
thanks
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What happened guys?
You don't have any mud in Australia??? :wink: :wink: :wink: -
It hasn't rained on the island for a few days, so there's no mud to report of :wink: :lol:Originally posted by Leonardo2003 GXL V6
Safari snorkelComment
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I believe its the end of summer for you, that is why you don't have any rain.Comment
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Leonardo forget A/T tires generally for mud specially with such a heavy car as ours.LC 120 D-4D 6sp Manual LWB
Arb Sahara bar
Warn 9.5XP
Koni Heavy track RAID
[url="http://www.nomad.gr"]www.nomad.gr[/url]Comment
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What do you mean?Originally posted by vk120
That we should put M/T tyres and not A/T ?
Please explain your point...Comment
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If you want tyre what performs good in mud then put a mud tyres on...Originally posted by Leonardo
Or you can run 2 sets - one for every day and another one for play time...[color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
[b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds
)[/b]
[url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]Comment
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Do you mean that A/T on the 120, do not perform well ?
Is like you have the original tyres from TOYOTA?Comment
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I mean that an A/T tire -no matter what you hear- cannot perform any good in mud on heavy cars like ours and specially with the kind of mud and terrain we have in Greece.
If you had a Jimny or something like that then you had a chance with A/T in mud.
Finally if the terrain is muddy but flat or smooth uphills anf downhills and you can get and keep momentum then again you might be ok.But with the kind of steep up and downhills we have in Greece without enough space to get and keep the momentum it is -in my opinion- dangerous to try them with A/T tires.LC 120 D-4D 6sp Manual LWB
Arb Sahara bar
Warn 9.5XP
Koni Heavy track RAID
[url="http://www.nomad.gr"]www.nomad.gr[/url]Comment
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Last questions...
What tyres do you use?
How the M/T perform on wet (Greek) roads fitted on LC?
P.S.
It's stupid to exchange ideas through Australia... :lol: :lol: :lol:Comment
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I cannot have 2 sets of tyres.
What do you believe I have to do?Comment
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Hi guys,
I have Cooper ATRs on my LC120. I love them. We had some rain here in the mountains recently and I went for a drive on the tracks near where I live, it was the first rain in ages and a particularly notorious track near here was plenty slippery and steep.
The ATRs performed flawlessly. That said though, I'm not a "rip, tear and bust" sort of a driver, I took it easy, no sudden throttle inputs and the like. They didn't break grip at all.
Sure muddies perform better in mud, you don't have to be Einstein to figure that out, but like some people, I can't justify the expense of multiple sets of tyres, nor am I willing to sacrifice the on road performance of the vehicle. Although I live on a dirt road, surrounded by National Parks and bush, and I go off road every other weekend, I still use the vehicle to get to work on the tar 80km per day and drive the family around.
I recently had the joy of driving in fresh snow, the ATRs performed flawlessly also, the tread didn't even look like clogging up with slush.
While the ATRs are not "pure offroad" tyres, I reckon they are a very capable comprimise indeed.
Hope this helps.
Happy trails,
Drew.2005 Toyota LandCruiser GRJ120R Prado "Pilbara" (GX+) Petrol V6 5 Speed Auto, ARB AirLocker rear diff locker, Safari Snorkel, Bilstein Shocks, OME 2" Lifted Springs, PolyAir airbags, bash plates, Icom HF Transceiver, Uniden UHF CB, HID and LED lights, Black Duck seat covers, Tekonsha Prodigy trailer brake controller, Redarc Dual Battery Controller, ATS4X4 Side Steps/Rock Sliders.Comment
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ATRs would be at least twice as good compared to Gradtreks offroad...Originally posted by Leonardo[color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
[b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds)[/b]
[url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]Comment
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It's all depends on personal circumstances of how you use your car.Originally posted by Leonardo
i.e.
Percentage of City/Highway/Off-road usage, etc, etc.. For most people
tyres like Cooper ATRs is good balance between road handling/offroad usage is they cars spend more than 80% of the time on the bitumen.
Other people want something more aggressive like Cooper STT/GoodYear MTR for better off-road traction and prepared to to put up with extra noise and decreased on-road handling.[color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
[b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds)[/b]
[url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]Comment
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Hi all,
do you have any opinion about Cooper ST and Copper ST-C ?
The ST is a 60-40% On/Off and the ST-C is an 40-60% On/Off.
Not really thinking the ATR.
Compared with the BFG AT and Bridgestone 694, which will you prefer ?
Thanks in advance!Suzuki GV Calmini 1600cc.
Toyota LC J120-3d-4000cc.Comment
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