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JOEY
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JOEY
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Featured - issue 140 Australian 4wd Action.
-issue 52 Modified 4wds .
Locked ,Lifted, boosted Brut---"Pradzilla".
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You really need to throw the Mickey Thompson MTX / MTZ into the equation as well. I think it is in the similar class as the others. -
Matt,
Stay AWAY from COOPERS if going to the red center (Thin sidewalls and
they don't like heat)!
Both MTRs and MTZ are good tyres...
Depending on the route you are planning to take to Alice you might as
well go on D694's if going via bitumen..[color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
[b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds
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Matt,
When I was looking, the Procomps were significantly more expensive than MTR or MTZ. The boys at ATS love the Proccomps but I have never seen many other reviews, maybe because the price stops more people using them.
The MTR and MTZ are both good, each just slightly better than the other in certain areas. You would probably be more km out of the MTR but a little more traction in sloppy mud from the MTZ (resists side slip better).
The fact that I haven't even mentioned STT as an option is an indication of how I rate them.
LeachyEX-Prado OwnerComment
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I reckon you need to go with the Pro Comp's :!: :!:
Why ... well that's easy. We've got Pradopointers with MTR's, MTZ's and STT's ..... so we can get valuable feedback from them.
We don't appear to have any crash test dummies .... er ... fellow Pradopointers ... with Pro Comps, who can provide valuable feedback to the forum.
I reckon its one of those sacrifices you need to make ... for the benefit of the forum. :lol: :lol:
[/remove tongue from cheek]
Seriously ... as a set of play tyres, on play rims, go for it. As Leachy said .. the MTZ's are a bit softer in compound and seem to grip really well in the mud ..... and Joey loves his STT's for the same reason. Stan's MTRs have been to hell and back.
Where are you going to be doing most of your playing .... loose mud, sand, rock ??? That should help you sort out the best compound. If its going to be a mix of all of the above ... then you'll probably need to look at the best compromise compound.
My 2 cents ... and I expect change. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers
ChippyComment
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Ive thought about this one for a while. I have had MTR's in the past and they were great tyres, except in the mud (they are not a mud tyre at all, really more of an agressive AT, and the M in the name does not stand for mud like some people think.....) Very tough though and a good outback tyre.
A lot of friends if they run just one set of tyres have used them.
I figure that if you are going to run a second set of wheels, you might as well go for something a little more agressive like the MTZ. reading reviews from USA, they seem to rave about them even when comparing them to the MTR, so they must be very good. WHile the STT's are OK, I just don't like coopers because of all the problems friends have had in the past few years with various sets of them (mainly the ST)December 2007 Prado GXL diesel, Option Pack with traction control, rear airconditioning and curtain airbags. Lovells Springs and Bilstiens shocks, snorkel, front recovery points,
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I like those pro comps, matt keep us posted on the $$$$.[b]Rob[/b]
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matt make some of ya own tyres, get a groovin gun an go hard ya self, put it in the diy section in mods, afterall you r the king ov diy, i can see the title now CUSTOM DIY MUDDERS, give it a bash. you will have to wear the 694s down first. cheers samohad an 03 gx 120 with some gear now got a 2013 bt 50 GT auto some ARB gear.Comment
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Yeah that would be fine except that it is illegal to put a groover anywhere near an on road passenger carrying tyre. I used to groove tyres in a past life and it is interesting when yopu play around with tread patterns how different they react and what you can actually get out of the tyre.
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THE NEW COPPERS HAVE REINFORCED SIDE WALLS...
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JOEYFeatured - issue 140 Australian 4wd Action.
-issue 52 Modified 4wds .
Locked ,Lifted, boosted Brut---"Pradzilla".
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This one had just 2000km on it :roll:
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[b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds)[/b]
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Looks like your SHIFT key is stuffed joey. :POriginally posted by joey
I'm in the same dilemma Matt and I think I'm going to go for a set of MTZ's.
My thoughts for going that way...
1. Coopers reputation. (Although apparently mtz's made by cooper)
2. MTR's not so good in the mud (plenty of mud to be found up here)
3. User reviews on various other forums and some local blokes up here swear by them.
Price wise the STT's and MTZ's are pretty much on par while the MTR's seem to be cheaper by $20-30 a tyre.. (Well up here in Cairns anyway, everything is dearer up this way)
My 2.2c
Nothing a couple of patches wont fix! :shock: :POriginally posted by lc120_man2008 GXL M6 D4D, Silver
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Bloody hell! Was that one of your tyres? What on earth does that to such a young tyre? Low tyre pressure over 1900kms? Amazing.Originally posted by lc120_manThis one had just 2000km on it :roll:
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dunno how you could recommend mtzs and not coopers when mickey thompson tryes are made by cooper, and pretty much the same.
id go the either the STTs or the MTZs. First hand knoledge with both, and both are a very strong tyre with good sidewall protection.
Goodyear MTRs are good, but i havent known anyone with them on their vehicle.2004 GXL V6 5 speed auto. Cooper STTs, 40mm Lift, Scanguage II, Flyer batterybox, GME3400 UHF, Engel 40L, Safari Snorkel, IPF Xeon Headlight upgrade, Milford Cargo Barrier.
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I had a long chat to the guy who is the australian distributor of Mickey Thompson and asked quite a few questions about the "coopers owns Mickey Thompson therefore they are the same"
He made several points
1. They were obvously independent companies for a long while, then Coopers bought Mickey Thompson
2. Thats about the end of the interaction between them. At this stage is it purely a financial thing. They run completely independent research teams and while some of the tyres are made in the same factories they are made to completely different spec and under different people overseeing the processes
3. The Mickey Thompson people look down big time on the Coopers people in the states as over there coopers is the small operation compared to Mickey Thompson
cheersDecember 2007 Prado GXL diesel, Option Pack with traction control, rear airconditioning and curtain airbags. Lovells Springs and Bilstiens shocks, snorkel, front recovery points,
ARB Bar with fog lights, ARB second battery system, sandgrabber mats, Pirelli ATR Tyres,Comment
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