Recovery Points

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The big hole isn't an issue with the bar mounting bracket and captured nut behind it.

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I'm off to Roadsafe in the morning for another test fit of the new points prior to them being destruction tested. Will get some pics if allowed and post them here.

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I had the redesigned Roadsafe points test-fitted to my Kakadu with the TJM T13 bar this morning. I am pleased to report that they now fit without any overlap of the washer on the passenger side. TJM use 2 bolts at the top of the bull bar mount on that side so previously the point would overlap one of the washers which isn't ideal.

The driver's side will also fit but because there is only 1 bolt at the top on that side (TJM only use 1 because of KDSS) we didn't get that one fully bolted up. There didn't seem to be a convenient chassis rail hole to pass the nutplate through and removing the bar would have taken too long. I know plenty of guys with KDSS have these mounted so if you know the magic spot to slot the plate through I'd love to hear about it.

Here's a photo of the passenger side :-


Note the shackle is there to test for fit, fits no problem. If you look at Rogerthav2's pic above you can see there is a plate that crosses the shackle hole at that point.

Now I just have to wait for destruction testing to be done on the points and then they will start getting them fabricated. After that they are going to fit them to my vehicle for me. It will probably be around a 4 week wait though so will just have to be patient a little bit longer. While it has taken some time to get to this point I have to say that Roadsafe have been pretty good about listening to the feedback and sorting out the issue.

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Good news, just ensure when the points are fitted up finally that they use 12.9 bolts at the top and not the 8.8s as per your picture. As for the retesting it looks to me like they have just trimmed the end. That will not change the strength of the recovery point at all since it is bolted inside that point. Seems like a wasted effort.

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Just ensure when the points are fitted up finally that they use 12.9 bolts at the top and not the 8.8s as per your picture.

Yes, I have asked about that too.

As for the retesting it looks to me like they have just trimmed the end. That will not change the strength of the recovery point at all since it is bolted inside that point. Seems like a wasted effort.

Perhaps but I guess they want to ensure the removal of that small section of metal hasn't compromised the strength of that end of the point. It wasn't my suggestion, just something they said they had to do.

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Fido,
Do you have a contact, or a dealer to buy these through?

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I bought the original set from Road Runner Offroad via eBay. I don't have that set anymore since they were trimmed with an angle grinder to make the templates for these new ones. The new ones aren't available yet, anyone currently selling the Roadsafe points will have the old style. The old style seems to fit ARB bars and non-bar 150s without any issues, it's just the TJM bar and KDSS which has some fitting issues.

The current part no. is RP-PRA150, not sure if this will change once the new design gets mass produced.

Roadsafe don't sell direct to the public but their products are available via Bursons, Autobarn, and a number of other places :-
http://www.roadsafe.com.au/stockists.php

I thought you had points already?

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yea but mine are incorrectly fitted, they missed a bolt on the reinstallation, because the points aren't quite right. so i'm skeptical to use them.
so i'm interested in these...

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OK, well I see you have the same bar as me so probably best to wait till the new style are ready for market then. I'm hoping it won't take them too long since they've already made the test pair, the factory should have the right template and tooling to produce them as soon as the destruction testing is completed.

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Good news, just ensure when the points are fitted up finally that they use 12.9 bolts at the top and not the 8.8s as per your picture.

I forgot to ask exactly what the issue is with the 8.8 bolts. I know they have a lower tensile strength but considering that is what TJM use to hang their bullbar off I would have thought they were strong enough. Admittedly they use 2 bolts at the top on the passenger side but on the driver's side they only use 1 with KDSS equipped 150s.

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fido the 8.8s are probably ok but it comes down to the shock loading on the bolts during a recovery and even with a bridle one side can take more of the force than another. Also not everyone is a PP member so they don't necessarily know to use a bridle. With the bullbar the load is more evenly distributed. As I said before stick with 12.9s. If nothing else they are more expensive!

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The bullbar is bolted to the chassis at numerous points. The recovery points are bolted only at 2 points.

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Also not everyone is a PP member so they don't necessarily know to use a bridle.

That is recovery lesson 101, not something that has magically come from the minds of PP members. I sincerely hope that people doing snatch recoveries dont rely on information posted on Pradopoint to work out how to do it. I dont recall anyone ever posting the correct snatch technique and from the posts I read I doubt that the vast majority of members actually know how to do it correctly.

That should stir up a Hornets nest

Cheers Andrew

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Sorry I was being facetious. But you and I have both seen dumb attempts at recovery. Sometimes it wasn't even me doing it! I can still recall the 80 series Cruiser which snatched an old Inter 4x4 truck out of a sand bog. Didn't work the first 11ty times so more speed. Snatching off one chassis rail. For some reason the back door didn't close properly...

I sit corrected. Put in my place. Again.

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I find having the vehicle being recovered spinning the wheels in reverse as you pull them out helps. It creates a ramp of dirt, sand, mud in front of them.