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  • Jack options for a 150 series Prado VX plus a Cub Escape camper trailer

    Hi all. We're doing a central Aus trip soon, and hopefully many more further trips with our setup. We have a 2015 VX Prado (standard lift), and a 2019 Cub hardfloor camper (ATM 1650kg) with independent suspension. I obviously need to consider various scenarios. Most offroading will likely be gravel roads and so on, rather than hard core stuff. Anticipate some sand and mud here and there.
    I am wondering what would be the safest and most versatile jack system? I understand Hi Lift units are not recommended for tyre changes (and are good at removing pieces of your anatomy if not careful), but rather as multi-purpose recovery units (including manual winching). Air bag units versatile but bulky (I do have a compressor in our setup though). Hydrolic bottle jacks may be useful, provided can lift high enough? I've also considered a "Trail A Mate" jockey wheel which may prove useful as a backup jack.

    For the purpose of this trip, I'm mostly focusing on safe and easy tyre changes, rather than recovery. I'll always have a few bits of hardwood to use as platforms and so on.

    Thoughts and experiences?

    Cheers, Mat


  • #2
    Good hydraulic jack with a nice solid hardwood block will do the trick....... as does you factory car jack, maybe with said block of wood.

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    • #3
      I bought a 4 tonne hydraulic jack which I've had to use on the (2 tonne) camper trailer and the Prado rear axle (twice). They fairly small and effective. As 404 says, carry a decent piece of wood to create a stable base when in the dirt. Remember - there won't be a nice level concrete pad when you pull off any road when that puncture happens.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys. Any particular models or suggestions? Are they all pretty much the same?
        Last edited by mat-with-one-t; 28-05-2021, 06:14 AM.

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        • #5
          Just chasing this one up. Any good experiences? I've read good things about Japan made Masada jacks. Assume I need a bit of extra lift in case on uneven ground and so on (will take a few blocks of wood as suggested). Jack point on Cub Camper seems to be at about 330mm off ground (see above pic). Thanks again all. Mat

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          • #6
            Just had a look in the dark (you should feel privileged!). Mine is a "Pro-Lift" brand(!). I think I bought it from Repco about three and a half years ago. I don't know much about its quality. It has worked reliably every time I've used it. Always store your hydraulic jack upright - the oil can leak out if they're left on their side.

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            • #7
              I do indeed feel privileged! Thanks Gee.

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              • #8

                I bought the following items for the sort of scenarios that you describe mat-with-one-t:
                • ‘ProLift’ 6000kg Hydraulic Bottle Jack - B-6000.
                https://www.repco.com.au/en/tools-eq...000/p/A9279307

                • ‘Roadsafe’ 4WD Ram Extension - Kit that includes three ram extensions from 75mm - 305mm with Flat & Axle style Top Plate Extensions)
                https://www.4x4andcamping.com.au/pro...with-carry-bag

                I haven’t used the combo in a ‘real life’ situation but I’m happy with the extra lift provided by ram extension kit with a solid steel base under the bottle jack in trial runs.

                ‘Roadsafe’ also make a Bottle Jack Ram Base Plate Big Boy 205mm x 460mm - SB112 that looks great but a bit expensive.
                https://www.the4wdshed.com/big-boy-b...ack-base-plate

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                • #9
                  Thanks Tow. I've heard ok things about Prolift (also see post above yours).

                  Actually on the subject of bottle jacks, a question for the Brains' Trust....

                  So my Prado is about # tonne give or take. Add maybe 500kg if lots of stuff onboard. Jacks are "rated" to lifting weight, however I assume this means total weight lifted. I assume that, when using a bottle jack to swap a wheel, by lifting one corner enough to clear a wheel, the load wouldn't represent anywhere near total weight. I recall something about maybe 1/3 total? That would mean, allowing even for some overkill, a 2 tonne bottle jack would be plenty? Am I missing something here? Maybe we just like a bit of "redundency" in these situations?

                  I also note clearance (on flat ground) is about 320mm at jack points. I have to assume this to be much lower with a flat tyre (would drop a further approx 150mm on a flat), thus minimum clearance needs to be maybe 170mm-ish? Is this right?

                  Then I'd need at least 150+ lift from the jack to clear the tyre to get the wheel off/on, and this assumes flat ground. Can use wood blocks underneath for a bit more lift and stability I suppose?

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                  • #10
                    Hi mat, best I leave the answers to your questions re lifting the Prado to those more knowledgeable than me.
                    However I thought I’d mention that,
                    (i) I bought the bottle jack primarily to change the tyres on my off-road camper trailer that has an ATM of 1410kg with the jacking points sitting at 580mm off the ground and
                    (ii) I chose the the largest in the ProLift range (6000kg) to get the maximum lift height (428mm) and the extra stability...
                    http://www.proliftproducts.com.au/Manuals/B6000.pdf

                    Having the Roadsafe Ram Extension Kit gives me the additional height I need for clearance instead of carrying heavy blocks of wood.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Tow. Yeah makes sense - look at height ranges and go from there. Looks like my trailer sits at 330 at the jack point - same essentially as the Prado. Also means flat = maybe 180 at lowest. So I suppose that means I need at least a 2T jack, lowest size under 170 (maybe allowing for a plank of wood or similar), tallest at about 380 min to be sure.....
                      Last edited by mat-with-one-t; 05-06-2021, 05:58 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I have an exhaust bag "jack" in the garage somewhere. We used to go our coastal sand islands regularly in our old Series 90. Fortunately we never got to use in its intended use. I haven't heard of one for years. Do they still make them?
                        2019 Prado GXL 2.8L Diesel
                        2003 Jimny too

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by watsea View Post
                          I have an exhaust bag "jack" in the garage somewhere. We used to go our coastal sand islands regularly in our old Series 90. Fortunately we never got to use in its intended use. I haven't heard of one for years. Do they still make them?
                          Yeah many versions around. Can inflate off a compressor or exhaust.....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tow2go View Post
                            I bought the following items for the sort of scenarios that you describe mat-with-one-t:
                            • ‘ProLift’ 6000kg Hydraulic Bottle Jack - B-6000.
                            https://www.repco.com.au/en/tools-eq...000/p/A9279307

                            • ‘Roadsafe’ 4WD Ram Extension - Kit that includes three ram extensions from 75mm - 305mm with Flat & Axle style Top Plate Extensions)
                            https://www.4x4andcamping.com.au/pro...with-carry-bag

                            I haven’t used the combo in a ‘real life’ situation but I’m happy with the extra lift provided by ram extension kit with a solid steel base under the bottle jack in trial runs.

                            ‘Roadsafe’ also make a Bottle Jack Ram Base Plate Big Boy 205mm x 460mm - SB112 that looks great but a bit expensive.
                            https://www.the4wdshed.com/big-boy-b...ack-base-plate
                            Have a look at Purpleline. I got one of their big-arse wheel clamps. They do a nice looking base plate for a lot less...
                            https://www.purpleline.com.au/kojack-baseplate/

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the suggestion mat, the kojack baseplate, jack and extensions looks like a great system.

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