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  • And as has already been discussed it has always been a rare problem, even with the 120s. You don't mention suspension in your buildup..?
    150 D4D GX with big tyres, TPMS, Tracklander, GME, Safari breathing straw & super soft squishy custom rear springs.

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    • Originally posted by Gordon View Post
      And as has already been discussed it has always been a rare problem, even with the 120s. You don't mention suspension in your buildup..?
      who? me? I don't mention much in my build up at all :P I got bored. I'll get back to it one day.
      2011 150series GXL

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      • Originally posted by D4D View Post
        Silly me, I thought that was your point all along...
        Fair comment I get grumpy after the second whine.
        Last edited by Gordon; 30-07-2012, 08:58 PM.
        150 D4D GX with big tyres, TPMS, Tracklander, GME, Safari breathing straw & super soft squishy custom rear springs.

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        • Originally posted by Gordon View Post
          Fair comment I get grumpy after the second whine.
          [url=http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=12264]My Prado[/url]

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          • Originally posted by wooley View Post
            who? me? I don't mention much in my build up at all :P I got bored. I'll get back to it one day.
            Not you, CQ. Sillyperson.
            150 D4D GX with big tyres, TPMS, Tracklander, GME, Safari breathing straw & super soft squishy custom rear springs.

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            • Originally posted by D4D View Post
              I see what you did. There that fixes it.
              Last edited by Gordon; 30-07-2012, 08:58 PM.
              150 D4D GX with big tyres, TPMS, Tracklander, GME, Safari breathing straw & super soft squishy custom rear springs.

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              • Originally posted by Peterpilot View Post
                Gordon,
                By far the biggest restriction to wheel travel and flex is OE shocks. They are too short and restrict down travel, which in turn restricts flex. Aftermarket shock absorbers are (generally) longer and offer more articulation, better control and better fade resistance.

                Originally posted by Gordon View Post
                That's not very correct bro.

                The front of the Prado has a coilover suspension design (oft confused with MacPherson struts) which top & bottom out before the shock, so aftermarket shocks will not make any difference to travel at the front.

                The rear shocks I've measured including OME and Koni RAID for Prados and various others for other cars were all exactly the same effective extended length. Shocked me initially I gotta say, but on reflection, the limiting factor should be the suspension design otherwise you get into issues around brake hose length & propeller shaft angle.. not to mention the alignment of your rear axle.

                In short you can't really talk about longer shocks & more wheel travel without talking about heavily modified vehicles.
                How then do you explain achieving an extra 40-50mm down travel on the front and rear of my 120 series just by changing from OE to aftermarket shocks? If the limitation was the suspension design rather than shock length, then why did fitting longer shocks yield almost 2'' more suspension travel? Since this is OT, I suggest we continue this discussion in another thread here: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...895#post360895
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                • Well...... NOT VERY JAN!! ....Just checked under the LHS Guard - all good..... went to look under the RHS inner Guard.... A CRACK !!!

                  What the ??? one trip out west and look what happens.... can't believe it..... Looks like it's a trip down to the local Toyota Dealer with my nearly 2yr old Prado to find out what can be done..... Hopefully under Warranty.
                  Accessories fitted: ARB Steel Bullbar / Dual Battery / Lovell's suspension and that's it.

                  What will be Toyota's likely response be, so I can prepare and answer b4 hand??

                  a Non-Happy Prado 150 owner....
                  [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
                  [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
                  [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
                  [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
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                  • Gday rob_macca67

                    Before you go to Toyota i would put the rig over a weigh bride and take the GVM and especially the front axle weight certif with you!

                    If all within spec (Not close to max spec) then you have them by the balls.

                    If close to front axle weight then loose some weight and get re- weighed then go to Toyota.

                    Cheers

                    PS Full fuel tank is classified as distributed weight so go with full tanks (@ weight bridge) and include the weight of your passengers in the total weight as they (Toyota) will be aiming for the axle overload clause
                    Last edited by SWR; 12-08-2012, 12:52 PM.

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                    • Rob, I feel your pain mate.
                      Toyota will blame the bullbar and second battery no doubt. Read through this thread regarding the 'pendulum' theory. I assume by right side you mean drivers side? If so remove the 2nd battery and don't go offroad as it will get much worse very quickly. My passenger guard has all but separated from the radiator support panel!

                      Another failure at the two year mark... I don't think too many people would be inspecting the guards on a regular basis, I mean why would you? Makes you wonder if the problem might be a bit more widespread.
                      Last edited by Schniff; 12-08-2012, 04:53 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by rob_macca67 View Post
                        Well...... NOT VERY JAN!! ....Just checked under the LHS Guard - all good..... went to look under the RHS inner Guard.... A CRACK !!!(
                        Bugger!..I assume this is the drivers side, I thought the previous cracks were on the passenger side or have I got my sides mixed up?
                        [B]Steve[/B]

                        2010 Silver GXL Prado 150, D4D Auto, with a few non standard bits

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                        • Originally posted by krypto View Post
                          Bugger!..I assume this is the drivers side, I thought the previous cracks were on the passenger side or have I got my sides mixed up?
                          Yeah.... I had only read about cracks on the LHS..... Looked there 1st and all was good, a little voice in my head said have a look on the RHS.... I did, and it's all gone to poo from there.... My faith in Toyota at this moment is at an all time low. Not sure what I'll do if Toyota decide it's not their responsibility...... I suppose I then hit up my Insurance Company then......

                          I "did" have plans to keep this car long term...... now, well there will always be that doubt or concern in the back of my mine on the next outback trip that I what to do..... I suppose I should just wait and see what Toyota say b4 I get too carried away, but after forking out all that $$ when buying our 1st NEW 4WD then for this to happen...... I'll just hold my tongue for the moment and say my prayers
                          [I]cheers..... Rob (macca)[/I]
                          [I][B][COLOR=DarkRed]Car-4: 1996 Defender Tdi [/COLOR][/B][/I]
                          [I][B][COLOR=Blue]Car-3: 1996 Discovery Tdi Auto[/COLOR][/B][/I]
                          [B][I][COLOR=Green]Car-2: 1993 Suzuki Vitara 4Dr (modified for Playing) [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Now Retired[/COLOR][COLOR=Green] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
                          [B][I][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Car-1: 2010 Toyota Prado 150's (Missus Car/current touring vehicle)[/COLOR][/I][/B]

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                          • Oh man, that's no good, Rob

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                            • Ron do you have any pictures of the cracks so hat I can check mine?
                              Richo.
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                              • Sorry that should be Rob
                                [B]Former [/B]Party Leader, [B]Now[/B] SDO SEQLD GTG 2015 PFA (Pradopoint Fairy Advisor)
                                [B]Bitumen - A Blatant Waste of Taxpayers Money[/B]

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