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    I have the new 2014 model, and am part way through my DB install, I have the booster diode replacement fuse but I have a question. The current Voltage standard at hot idle is 13.75v - do I need to install the booster to charge a Yellow Top D34 with redarc solenoid?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Symo View Post
    I have the new 2014 model, and am part way through my DB install, I have the booster diode replacement fuse but I have a question. The current Voltage standard at hot idle is 13.75v - do I need to install the booster to charge a Yellow Top D34 with redarc solenoid?
    That seems like a decent voltage, maybe you dont need it?
    What does the voltage go to when you put it in?

    ps I dont know anything about anything...but 13.7 is about what I get in my 2013 prado with a hot engine and the booster.

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    • #3
      It's at the low end of Optima recommended voltage range for charging a Yellow Top.

      See here:

      http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us...care/charging/

      Mick

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      • #4
        Good one Mick, I'll put her in and retest tomorrow.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SuperDavid View Post
          ps I dont know anything about anything...but 13.7 is about what I get in my 2013 prado with a hot engine and the booster.
          David,

          if you are viewing the voltage on a Scangauge or similar, add 0.4 to 0.5 volts to the reading, as the ECU reduces the charge figure.

          cheers
          Geoff
          2012 Kakadu V6 - Graphite, Opposite Lock Bar, Hella Rallye 4000, GME 3440, Scangauge, Featherlite Awning, TG150 Guard, Traxide UC160 Dual Battery system and 2 Yellowtop batts, Safari Snorkel, Bushskinz bash plates, 2" suspension lift, 3D mats
          Mods to come - Front locker, Runva 11XP winch, 265/65R18

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          • #6
            Just to clarify I used a multimeter on the battery while idling warm. Haven't done the diode yet, prob do it after the first service as I haven't wired up the isolator yet, just bolted all the parts in.

            The battery was reading 12.8v warm sitting for about 2 hours prior to starting and testing. The voles read 13.8v initially but settled on 13.7v for a few mins. Not sure what a longer duration would yield.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by geoffmc1 View Post
              David,

              if you are viewing the voltage on a Scangauge or similar, add 0.4 to 0.5 volts to the reading, as the ECU reduces the charge figure.

              cheers
              Geoff
              That reading wasnt through scangauge, but through voltage reader plugging in to my rear cigarette socket. Fridge was on and it was a hot day.
              I guess there would be some voltage drop there. Not I deal conditions really

              Just now on a cool day with a hot engine straight from the second battery I'm reading 14.1v.

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              • #8
                I see Piranha offroad are selling their own version of this Voltage boosting idea. They call theirs "ALTERNATOR OUTPUT COMPENSATOR" (AOC). see link: Alternator Output Compensator

                I have seen a Youtube of his demonstration to the dangers of buying the internet versions of the Diode/Fuse replacement.... Good demo, but would like to hear comments from LeighW, & others as to their thoughts on the subject ?

                Their price is $98 per device.....u got to be kiddin....
                rob_macca67
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                Last edited by rob_macca67; 15-03-2014, 07:56 PM.
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                • #9
                  Installed the diode after completing the DBS and it reads 14.2 peak and 14.05 idle at room temperature.
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                  • #10
                    Hi macca

                    Any chance of posting the link to the YouTube video. Had quick search and couldn't find anything.


                    Cheers
                    Darren

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                    • #11
                      Try this: ALTERNATOR OUTPUT COMPENSATOR FB Video



                      Originally posted by D4Dazz View Post
                      Hi macca

                      Any chance of posting the link to the YouTube video. Had quick search and couldn't find anything.


                      Cheers
                      Darren
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                      • #12
                        After leaving the car parked all day I checked the battery voltage and found the following since installing the diode.

                        Main battery 12.54v, Aux 12.7v

                        Something doesn't seem right here...

                        I noticed for the last few days that the isolator stays connected for a long time, sometimes overnight, because the main battery doesn't drop below 12.7v - but withing 18 hours of installing the diode its at 12.5v which is alarming.

                        Any ideas?
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                        • #13
                          UPDATE - Just idled the car for 30sec, watched the main go up to 14.1v then switched off and the main settled at 12.75v which is what I have seen before, I then turned on teh highbeams untill the isolator tripped, and checked the voltage, 12.4v...

                          Is this normal or is my genuine toyota battery stuffed?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Symo View Post
                            UPDATE - Just idled the car for 30sec, watched the main go up to 14.1v then switched off and the main settled at 12.75v which is what I have seen before, I then turned on teh highbeams untill the isolator tripped, and checked the voltage, 12.4v...

                            Is this normal or is my genuine toyota battery stuffed?
                            I have noticed that my main battery does have lower readings than the secondary battery. Similar to yours I think. Couldnt tell you if thats normal or if its just us in the same boat.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Symo View Post
                              After leaving the car parked all day I checked the battery voltage and found the following since installing the diode.

                              Main battery 12.54v, Aux 12.7v

                              Something doesn't seem right here...

                              I noticed for the last few days that the isolator stays connected for a long time, sometimes overnight, because the main battery doesn't drop below 12.7v - but withing 18 hours of installing the diode its at 12.5v which is alarming.

                              Any ideas?
                              What Aux battery do you have? How old is the OEM battery? Batteries have different internal resistance, the lower the better as they charge quicker. Batteries have a different voltages when charged and when discharging.
                              Winston.

                              White 2009 120 Series D4D GXL manual.

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