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    After pricing a spare key & fob I had a chat with my local locksmith and came up with a more economical solution. The locksmith matched a blank (pretty sure it was for a Camry) to my blade and copied it for $30. So now I have a spare key secured/hidden outside of the vehicle. Even though I may not be able to start it, at least I can get in if I have to.

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    Good idea. I used to do this with my old car l when we went surfing/to the beach. It was just a generic blank that didn't have the chip in the fob to start it. We hid the real key inside the car and took the other one out with us so if we lost it, at least we hadn't lost the starting key. (and if someone found it they couldn't walk around the car park pressing the fob until they found the car)
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    • #3
      If your that worried, you could hide the blade itself on the vehicle, pretty sure the clicker doesn't need it to operate?
      You can still start the car with the blade due to the magnetic? thingo at the end. (from what ive been told, haven't tried it myself)
      You just hold it right on the start button as you push it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by r4ndll View Post
        We hid the real key inside the car and took the other one out with us so if we lost it, at least we hadn't lost the starting key.
        The danger being, if anyone decided to smash your window, they could drive off in your car. As far as I can tell, if the Fob is anywhere inside your car, the engine will start.
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        • #5
          I wouldn't do it all the time but if I removed the battery and hid that inside as well it would be better than losing a very expensive key.

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          • #6
            I have always secured a key outside of the vehicle for about twenty years now, it was a tip given to me by a tag along tour operator who requested all of his clients did it to prevent lockouts in remote locations. You could use the oem blade but then you don't have the blade on your key ring any more. My understanding of placing the fob adjacent to the start/stop button is this is for when the fob battery is flat. Placing the fob adjacent to the start/stop button may be like using it as a swipe card, I wouldn't think holding the blade only there would have any affect. Anyway, I did it to have a backup without spending $100 on a factory blade, and $500 on a factory fob.

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            • #7
              Max of 70cm from start button. What's scary is the key being hidden the wireless would still work to open any door in the car if it was hidden inside. That isn't very smart.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SimpleSi View Post
                The danger being, if anyone decided to smash your window, they could drive off in your car. As far as I can tell, if the Fob is anywhere inside your car, the engine will start.
                Yeah. It's different now with the keyless start. That was on my old 2002 Xtrail. Still needed the key to start it. Same as my 120

                Though it would have to be a very brazen thief going round smashing windows on the off chance that one had a key hidden it.

                Another suggestion I've seen used if travelling in a group, is to give your spare starting key to someone else in the group. The chances of both of you losing the key are reduced
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Peter.Rocks View Post
                  Max of 70cm from start button. What's scary is the key being hidden the wireless would still work to open any door in the car if it was hidden inside. That isn't very smart.....
                  This morning I started my car, took the blade key out of the fob and left the fob inside the car. I then locked the doors with the blade.
                  Then I tried to open the doors using just the handle (touch entry) and I couldn't open it. I had to use the blade key to open up the doors.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Black 150 View Post
                    This morning I started my car, took the blade key out of the fob and left the fob inside the car. I then locked the doors with the blade.
                    Then I tried to open the doors using just the handle (touch entry) and I couldn't open it. I had to use the blade key to open up the doors.
                    Yep as you have noticed - there are separate internal antennas and external antennas for the key fob.

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                    • #11
                      We just returned from an outback trip, and we always take a spare key with us.

                      We wrap the spare key fob in alfoil, and then seal the key/alfoil into a cryovac pack so it remains water tight.

                      The alfoil seems to effectively block the electrical signals from the fob, so you can keep the spare key anywhere you like.

                      I won't say where we keep our spare key fob when travelling, but if we lost our start key fob, or if it went flat or failed we can access the spare key, unwrap it and get going again.

                      Fortunately we didn't need to use the spare, but it is good insurance.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Boneyone View Post
                        After pricing a spare key & fob I had a chat with my local locksmith and came up with a more economical solution. The locksmith matched a blank (pretty sure it was for a Camry) to my blade and copied it for $30. So now I have a spare key secured/hidden outside of the vehicle. Even though I may not be able to start it, at least I can get in if I have to.
                        If anyone is looking for a key blank I bought some from OS and have some spares at a lot lower price than Mr toyota. you just have to get them cut at your local key people

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                        • #13
                          I like the idea of wrapping it in foil, good one.

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                          • #14
                            Hy everyone, please, I would like to know the correct transponder chip for my 2014 toyota land cruiser prado txl...its a platinum edition and there has been the controversy of getting the right key and corresponding transponder chip. Some of the sites show 4C, 4D, G, H, etc. I need all the help I can get...Thanks

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SimpleSi View Post
                              The danger being, if anyone decided to smash your window, they could drive off in your car. As far as I can tell, if the Fob is anywhere inside your car, the engine will start.
                              Our 2014 GXL worked that way out of the factory but you can get Toyota to change it so it will only start if the key is in the "front" of the car. This means you can leave the key inside the car in the back and it won't start unless they actually find the key and move it to the front. Unless someone saw where you left the key inside it shouldn't be too hard to hide it inside somewhere.

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