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    hi All

    My prado which was promised last month!! has been delaide to the 13th of March, we are planning to tow our 2 tonne van over this period and will have about 2000klm on the clock by then.

    how long do you need to run in for

    cheer
    [color=#000080]Anthony & Keera
    2010 Graphite GXL D4D Auto, Icom 440, GME aerial, IPF XS 900, Pirahna dual battery management system, ARB deluxe bar, IPF XS9000, warn XD 9000, kaymar rear step, twin wheel carriers, OME lift, rear draws onboard compressor, BFG all terrains and the list goes on........
    Trackmaster Kimberley hooked up behind[/color]

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    Re: how long before towing

    G'day Anthony and Keera,
    The owner's manual for our 120 says "Do not tow a trailer during the first 800 km"
    2000 km sounds fine.
    I presume it would be the same for the 150 series.
    Good to see I am not the only Trakmaster owner on this forum.
    I can share my camera experience with a pm later this evening
    Cheers
    Chris
    White GXL Auto D4D 1/08 Option Pack 1
    Tow bar, Brake controller, dual battery, ORS fridge slide and home made shelves not finished too busy traveling. Coil Rite Air suspension helpers. Rhino bars, Icom 440 UHF CB

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    • #3
      Re: how long before towing

      Originally posted by fish71
      hi All

      My prado which was promised last month!! has been delaide to the 13th of March, we are planning to tow our 2 tonne van over this period and will have about 2000klm on the clock by then.

      how long do you need to run in for

      cheer
      Great date to pick your prado up, same day i'm getting married 8) 2000km would be fine IMO, Depending on how much towing your doing i'd get engine oil and filter changed at the 1st 5000km, which should cost less then $100. As you'd find the 1000km inspection is just that, looking for any leaks or loose stuff. Try this link.... http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=7856

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      • #4
        Re: how long before towing

        Thanks for your input Bilo and congrats on your wedding, i will be marrying my new toy!! at least she wont complain in a few years .................lol
        [color=#000080]Anthony & Keera
        2010 Graphite GXL D4D Auto, Icom 440, GME aerial, IPF XS 900, Pirahna dual battery management system, ARB deluxe bar, IPF XS9000, warn XD 9000, kaymar rear step, twin wheel carriers, OME lift, rear draws onboard compressor, BFG all terrains and the list goes on........
        Trackmaster Kimberley hooked up behind[/color]

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        • #5
          Re: how long before towing

          Hi Fish71, when i picked up my new 120 series last year the salseman helped me hook up a trailer weighing about 1.5 tonne and i towed that 250kms to get home, the car had 8kms showing on the clock. it has now done 10000kms about 9000 of which has had a trailer of some description behind, usually loaded. everything is running fine no problems whatsoever!

          Cheersw Andrew
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          • #6
            Re: how long before towing

            Hi Fellas. A few years ago one of my mates brought a real tidy low mileage hi-lux ute. It was a real slug and couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding. After trying all the usual tricks without success, as a last desperate measure he borrowed a mates large tandem axle caravan and packed in the wife and kids and thrashed it for a couple of weeks whilst on holiday. In his words "I gave it death". After he got back the ute was going like a rocket and his opinion was that the previous owner had been over cautious with the running-in process and had ruined it. He has had no further grief with it since. I would suggest you take a little care with the running in process but dont be a pussy either because generally speaking, diesel motors love to work.
            2005 100 Series Landcruiser. 4.2 T/D 5 speed auto. LTD c/w AHC/Leather etc.

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            • #7
              Re: how long before towing

              Originally posted by Derb
              Hi Fellas. A few years ago one of my mates brought a real tidy low mileage hi-lux ute. It was a real slug and couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding. After trying all the usual tricks without success, as a last desperate measure he borrowed a mates large tandem axle caravan and packed in the wife and kids and thrashed it for a couple of weeks whilst on holiday. In his words "I gave it death". After he got back the ute was going like a rocket and his opinion was that the previous owner had been over cautious with the running-in process and had ruined it. He has had no further grief with it since. I would suggest you take a little care with the running in process but dont be a pussy either because generally speaking, diesel motors love to work.
              I Could not agree more,

              Diesels are designed to work, nothing will destroy them more than low load situations.

              A friend bought a 20,000km rodeo TD dual cab a few years ago, it had been babied, all its life in Sydney, the old owner telling how it had never been revved past 2200 rpm, it was a slug, on the trip home, he flogged it, up big long hills at redline etc, then with a load and very impresive bang, she cleared her throat, a heap of sparks and carbon out the back and it has been perfect ever since.

              Be kind to it, but dont baby, change the oil and filter at 2500-3000km.

              Enjoy.
              2010 VX

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              • #8
                Re: how long before towing

                Hi A and K,

                We are just back from a 3500km trip towing our 2.3t tandem full van. The trip was a good workout for the Prado with some very good hills to contend with. NSW and Vic snow fields and then to Melbourne

                Vehicle was picked up 29th Jan and we put 1500kms on the clock before we departed 19th Feb.

                We did not let the engine labor and kept the revs around 2500 on hills.

                We found the Prado performed well at road speeds between 95 and 100. Engine revs at 100kph on flat ground in nil wind resulted in 1900rpm.

                We use a genuine tow bar in conjunction with a Hayman Reece WDH (hitch).

                The gear ratios in the 5 speed auto seem to be well spaced for towing our size van.

                I am a believer in working an engine hard during the early stages in it's life, but not letting the engine stress by allowing it to labor.......keep the revs up when under load.

                The LC150 is an excellent tow vehicle with low noise levels in the passenger compartment.

                Some strong cross winds were also encountered, which is a good test for the stability of a tug. The 150 performed really well in the wind.

                Overall, we are happy with our choice of tow vehicle.

                Cheers,
                Ken and Kristine
                150 GXL D4D Auto Glacier White
                Toyota Tow Bar, Anderson Plug, Prodigy P1, Window Tint, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, Icom UHF, Engel 40lt, Gravel Rush GR150 mudflaps
                Crusader Mk2 18ft 6in Full Van

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                • #9
                  Re: how long before towing

                  Did you select gears for steeper hills or select drive & let the auto do the lot.
                  Thanks.
                  JP.

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                  • #10
                    Re: how long before towing

                    Originally posted by jpmoonta
                    Did you select gears for steeper hills or select drive & let the auto do the lot.
                    Thanks.
                    JP.
                    Hi JP,

                    I did a bit of both.

                    Early in the trip, I wanted to see where the change points were in the auto box, using the tacho as a guide and left the box in auto.

                    The box was a tad sluggish in it's change points and tended to let the engine labor a bit to long.......but did the job OK. I was just taking it easy at first, to understand the vehicle engine/gearbox characteristics

                    If the hills were a gradual shallow incline the box and engine torque were OK. Did not let the engine go below 2000rpm before changing down and getting the revs back to 2500rpm

                    On longer steeper gradients, I shifted into manual (4th) and watched the revs, to maintain 2500rpm where possible, sometimes dropping into 3rd or 2nd.

                    One interesting observation...............long gradual shallow incline when in auto.....box changed back to 4th......and when gear lever moved into manual.....there was a 200rpm drop when the "box settled". I checked this observation many times and the result was always the same. The box must have different software mapping in auto and manual, I feel. Someone may be able to explain why ???

                    One important 'must do' on steeper long uphill inclines is to manually change gears to ensure the engine is at, or above 2500rpm during the climb. Change early and keep the revs up.

                    Hope this info is of some help.

                    Cheers,
                    Ken and Kristine
                    150 GXL D4D Auto Glacier White
                    Toyota Tow Bar, Anderson Plug, Prodigy P1, Window Tint, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, Icom UHF, Engel 40lt, Gravel Rush GR150 mudflaps
                    Crusader Mk2 18ft 6in Full Van

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                    • #11
                      Re: how long before towing

                      Cobbo

                      Well we now have the 2000klm on the clock and looking forward to heading off for Easter, I read with interest the handbook says to use 4th gear !!, agree with your view to keep the revs up and 2500 rpm is pretty good range .

                      We bought a WDH so this will be the first time using one of those as well

                      thanks for your input

                      regards
                      [color=#000080]Anthony & Keera
                      2010 Graphite GXL D4D Auto, Icom 440, GME aerial, IPF XS 900, Pirahna dual battery management system, ARB deluxe bar, IPF XS9000, warn XD 9000, kaymar rear step, twin wheel carriers, OME lift, rear draws onboard compressor, BFG all terrains and the list goes on........
                      Trackmaster Kimberley hooked up behind[/color]

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