150 Suspension measurements.

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The front is too stiff for your loads. It won't settle 20mm.

From memory stick height at the front with 17" wheels is 750mm so you have 80mm of lift. Too much. A 1" diff drop might be ok but you have virtually no droop. That is bad. As Mark aphasia said it will handle poorly and dangerously. If you aren't adding weight up front like bat, winch and battery get softer springs.

Ok so I weigh 80 kg I hoped on front of car and it droped to 825 so bull bar battery bash plates still won't fix problem

I have the softest springs that iron man do for this model and the struts are correct so a little baffled as to why it's so high at the moment and very little droop

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Ok cheers buddy

[mjrandom]

The front is too stiff for your loads. It won't settle 20mm.

From memory stick height at the front with 17" wheels is 750mm so you have 80mm of lift. Too much. A 1" diff drop might be ok but you have virtually no droop. That is bad. As Mark aphasia said it will handle poorly and dangerously. If you aren't adding weight up front like bat, winch and battery get softer springs.

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Hey,

I would avoid driving your Prado at high speed, with only 25mm of droop and that high front ride height it will lift a wheel on a cambered high speed bend. I have driven Prados with low droop at high speed, and it can get dangerous.

Can you specify your strut and shock closed and open lengths, and specify the free height and spring rate of the coils you are running.

These numbers will help clarify why you have so little droop. I'm guessing you have short open length struts with coils that are too tall.

Such low droop figures have been seen before, it's not unusual, but it is of course a big problem, and you struts/coils are almost certainly mismatched.

Best

Mark

My Prado 2012 v6 front 830 rear 840
A new prado is front 760 rear 790
So 70mm lift

Thanks for your reply buddy I'm a little worried now and or confused about the droop
The front seems to be a very stiff ride but it is the toyo65b
Witch is the performance spring not the constant load springs

Front strut is 24750fe 552mm-425mm part number off struts
Spring is toyo65b 370mm part number off box
It was sold as a kit matching kit I dunno I'm confused I have
265 70 17 I measured from bottom of rim to gaurd

Struts and sprngs appear to be assembled correctly doesn't look like there is a spacer

It has superior engineering sway bar relocators does this matter



I'm just hoping it will drop to 810

If it drops or settles 20mm I get 20mm more droop right?
So Eg 810 to 855
Witch would be 45mm of droop still not much.... And that's only if it drops settles by itself...
60mm is the recommended minimum
Any suggestions on how to fix would be appreciated or is it ok to leave it as is
I'm going to lay across bonnet and pretend I'm a bull bar while wifey drives around in it today should be less stress on cv's

[Whitey]

I just measured droop it's 855 what is going on???
It is the performance springs not constant load
Don't want to kill a cv down the beach this weekend

Hey,

I would avoid driving your Prado at high speed, with only 25mm of droop and that high front ride height it will lift a wheel on a cambered high speed bend. I have driven Prados with low droop at high speed, and it can get dangerous.

Can you specify your strut and shock closed and open lengths, and specify the free height and spring rate of the coils you are running.

These numbers will help clarify why you have so little droop. I'm guessing you have short open length struts with coils that are too tall.

Such low droop figures have been seen before, it's not unusual, but it is of course a big problem, and you struts/coils are almost certainly mismatched.

Best

Mark

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830 is way too high without a diff drop. Probably too high with one. Aim for around 800. Are you getting a bar or winch and bar? Perhaps this was allowed for. You need to go back or fit the extra accessories.

I just measured droop it's 855 what is going on???
It is the performance springs not constant load
Don't want to kill a cv down the beach this weekend

[mjrandom]

830 is way too high without a diff drop. Probably too high with one. Aim for around 800. Are you getting a bar or winch and bar? Perhaps this was allowed for. You need to go back or fit the extra accessories.

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What do u guys reckon....

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Iron man 2" foam cells gxl v6 fitted yesterday

Front 830. Toyo65b
Rear 845 toyo56b

Normal springs... Not constant load springs
I really like how it looks but is the front too high for cv angles?
Going fishing on the coast on the weekend so see if the front settles or lowers.
Also has superior engineering sway bar relocator on front

[wheelan]

DMS install

So had DMS suspension install this week, still settling at the moment -

original heights (5K km on car, 2.8 dsl 2016 mdl)

Front - 750 Rear - 765 ish.

after install -

Front - 780 rear - 830

What is interesting is front droop is 110 mm and only 55 in the rear. Does the rear sound short?

[Archer]

Prior measurements (factory);
740mm front
765mm rear

Dobinsons 329 and 352.
800mm front
860mm rear

ARB Deluxe Steel winch bar
Smittybilt x20 10,000 (synthetic rope)
ARB Deluxe Roof rack
Dual battery system
Driving lights and light bar
Engel in back
Tow bar
second spare on roof, with 48"high lift jack
Recovery kit, compressor, tool set in back (no drawers)

[stevehastings]

Batb0t and Stevehastings I seem to have the same issue with my TJM suspensions as you guys. My front height at standard was 745mm both sides. When I initially put my suspension in the front was sitting at 775mm. Now my front drivers is sitting at 765mm and front passenger side is sitting at 770mm with 10mm spacers supposedly. My rears are good with both sitting at around 835mm.

They do have a 3 year 100,000 km warranty, but yeah go and talk to them, cheers Steve

Batb0t and Stevehastings I seem to have the same issue with my TJM suspensions as you guys. My front height at standard was 745mm both sides. When I initially put my suspension in the front was sitting at 775mm. Now my front drivers is sitting at 765mm and front passenger side is sitting at 770mm with 10mm spacers supposedly. My rears are good with both sitting at around 835mm.

Go back and ask them to add an additional 10-15mm spacer or swap out the current spacer with a taller one.

[Ryebags]

Batb0t and Stevehastings I seem to have the same issue with my TJM suspensions as you guys. My front height at standard was 745mm both sides. When I initially put my suspension in the front was sitting at 775mm. Now my front drivers is sitting at 765mm and front passenger side is sitting at 770mm with 10mm spacers supposedly. My rears are good with both sitting at around 835mm.