GVM issues

[mjrandom Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close mjrandom]

For a Prado...

[Designafield Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Designafield]

Either way I'm not about to spend 3k to replace the suspension that's only 6 months old just so I can have a new compliance plate that may or may not be legal in QLD.

However my original question still stands. Considering that the GVM upgrade is essentially a set of HD springs and shocks, then would the fitment of a set of OME HD springs and shocks achieve a similar result? Ie increased load capacity

Ignore the fact that it wouldn't be compliant or recognised because being overloaded is frowned upon anyway.

I'm just trying to determine if I can carry the extra 150-200kg without breaking shit.

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I'm just trying to determine if I can carry the extra 150-200kg without breaking shit.

Legalities aside, I think you will be fine. If you ran every fourby doing the Simpson over a weigh bridge I would suggest almost all of them would be over weight. As you say, GVM upgrades are essentially heavier springs and shocks and an engineer to sign off they are suitable, you just lack the signature.

Cheers Andrew

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For a Prado...

You just need to find an engineer to sign it off.

[mjrandom Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close mjrandom]

You just need to find an engineer to sign it off.

Maybe in the land of plenty.

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Maybe in the land of plenty.

Lovells would be a good start...

[Pog Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Pog]

I put mine over a weigh bridge before Easter, and we were at 3,120kg with everything loaded & full (inc family).

This went up to 3,270kg with the camper hooked on.

I have a 2" Ironman Lift with 0 - 300kg springs and airbags in the rear.

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Legalities aside, I think you will be fine. If you ran every fourby doing the Simpson over a weigh bridge I would suggest almost all of them would be over weight. As you say, GVM upgrades are essentially heavier springs and shocks and an engineer to sign off they are suitable, you just lack the signature.

Cheers Andrew

Thanks Andrew, that's pretty much what my thinking was. I was at ARB today and asked them and whilst they didn't come out and say it, they did think I would be fine as long as I didn't go overboard. Interestingly I had a suspension check today and the Prado is only sitting 5mm higher than standard after 6 months with the lift. Is that normal?

I put mine over a weigh bridge before Easter, and we were at 3,120kg with everything loaded & full (inc family).

This went up to 3,270kg with the camper hooked on.

I have a 2" Ironman Lift with 0 - 300kg springs and airbags in the rear.

Hi Pog, that's pretty much what I think I'll be when we head off, maybe a touch heavier once we leave Mt Dare with the extra water on board.

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Interestingly I had a suspension check today and the Prado is only sitting 5mm higher than standard after 6 months with the lift. Is that normal?

I would say no, you paid for a lift, it should stay lifted for longer than 6 months. I reckon most springs will sag over time, but not that short of time.

What are your actual measurements?

Cheers Andrew

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I would say no, you paid for a lift, it should stay lifted for longer than 6 months. I reckon most springs will sag over time, but not that short of time.

What are your actual measurements?

Cheers Andrew

Hi Andrew, measurements below:

Before lift:
FL: 750mm FR: 755mm
RL: 805mm RR: 800mm

After fitting:
FL: 790mm FR: 795mm
RL: 840mm RR: 840mm

At 5 months:
FL: 770mm FR: 775mm
RL: 805mm RR: 803mm

I only went the 30mm lift as I wanted to be still able to get into the work carpark (2.1m) - my old 120 wouldn't fit with the 2" lift.

Front Shocks: OME #90010
Rear Shocks: OME #60081

Front Springs: OME #2884
Rear Springs: OME #2895

Had everything fitted at the one go (suspension, bullbar, underbody armour, safari snorkel and towbar) - no idea when measurements were taken ie. before bullbar fitted etc.

Only things fitted since then are a winch and pioneer platform. It had a full tank of fuel, the drawers and fridge in it as well today.

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You can see the drawers and fridge box I have fitted in my Rig Build.

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...acelift%29-GXL

[Rrob Lurker Find all posts View Profile Close Rrob]

Just to be a wet blanket about a few things:

1: your vehicle weight on your registration papers is measured with 10 litres of fuel - not a full tank (from memory, that's about an additional 112kg for 150 litres of diesel)

2: if you're overweight and have an accident, you probably won't be covered by insurance; and

3: you may be subject to police charge for driving an unroadworthy vehicle; and

4: depending on the age of your vehicle, you may void your warranty.

Worth the risk?

[rags Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close rags]

Just to be a wet blanket about a few things:

1: your vehicle weight on your registration papers is measured with 10 litres of fuel - not a full tank (from memory, that's about an additional 112kg for 150 litres of diesel)

2: if you're overweight and have an accident, you probably won't be covered by insurance; and

3: you may be subject to police charge for driving an unroadworthy vehicle; and

4: depending on the age of your vehicle, you may void your warranty.

Worth the risk?

I don't think too many car wrecks get taken over the weight bridge on the way to the wrecking yard!

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Then hats because it's done at forensics. They know what an overloaded car looks like and if they believe it's one of the possible causes then it is investigated to prove it was or wasn't. Believe me that think of everything, they have got nothing better to do.!


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Then hats because it's done at forensics. They know what an overloaded car looks like and if they believe it's one of the possible causes then it is investigated to prove it was or wasn't. Believe me that think of everything, they have got nothing better to do.!


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Wrong. Due to the sheer workload of police normal run of the mill crashes are unlikely to have a vehicle weighed or inspected beyond basic observations at the scene for any contributing factors. In saying that minor bingles police aren't required to attend at all. However, if you are involved in a crash where there is serious injury or a fatality crash investigators will forensically inspect your vehicle which includes weighing as part of the mechanical investigation.