Sway bars on a lifted 95 - opinions sought

[MalcomM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MalcomM]

Hi

I have a 2" lift on my 95 but I find the high (blacktop) cornering rather disconcerting due to perceived body roll.
Cars behind me cannot see any roll at all but I can feel it and don't like it.

Some months ago, as part of a bigger service, I had Pedders change all the bushes etc which made no difference to the way it felt.
Just wondering on other drivers opinions of this sway.
Are there aftermarket upgrade anti-sway bars that will minimise this or should just live with it?

[raydes Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close raydes]

drive slower ,,,, you could try some adjustable rear shocks ,turn them up to the stiff setting on road.

[glen_ep Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close glen_ep]

Hah, unfortunately you have a lifted 4x4... try driving mine with it's body lift and 33's... then you'll love yours!

[MalcomM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MalcomM]

Hi Glen
I figured this would be the general consensus but thought someone might have found a way to tame the beast.
Running 30's, thats enough for me.

[wholesalesuspension Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close wholesalesuspension]

Hi

I have a 2" lift on my 95 but I find the high (blacktop) cornering rather disconcerting due to perceived body roll.
Cars behind me cannot see any roll at all but I can feel it and don't like it.

Some months ago, as part of a bigger service, I had Pedders change all the bushes etc which made no difference to the way it felt.
Just wondering on other drivers opinions of this sway.
Are there aftermarket upgrade anti-sway bars that will minimise this or should just live with it?

Hi Malcom

Whiteline do have swaybars listed for the Prado in a Heavy Duty 27mm Front & 22mm Heavy Duty rear.

-We have a Resident KZJ95R here at work that we have just lifted & it has 26mm Front Swaybarbar & 16mm Rear Swaybar standard.
I know a 1mm step up on the front doesn't sound like much, but it is a 16% stiffer bar for the 1mm increase over the standard Front Swaybar.
On the rear bar going from 16mm to 22mm is a stiffness increase of 257% The problem with the big rear bar is it will limit the flex.


Hope this helps a little

Regards, Wholesale

[glen_ep Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close glen_ep]

Hey Jason,
Any solutions for a softer front end? (more flex)

[MalcomM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MalcomM]

Flex in what way?

[wholesalesuspension Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close wholesalesuspension]

Hey Jason,
Any solutions for a softer front end? (more flex)

We have been looking at getting some stuff in from the States, but for us we have to be sure of quality & product support and back up from the supplier before we can retail it. I do like the look of the upper arms in yours.
Superior engineering do some nice stuff, if you own a 120, but not for the 95's unfortunately.

Will keep investigating & see what we can come up with. As for more flex than yours, i think a custom set of Driveshafts may be in order.

Regards, Jason.

[wholesalesuspension Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close wholesalesuspension]

Flex in what way?

Hi Malcom.

The stiffer Swaybars will limit the wheel travel offroad unfortunately.
As Glen showed with his , you can gain a bit more wheel travel by disconnecting the swaybars altogether.
There are a few nice swaybar disconnect kits on the market for the Jeeps, but i am yet to see one for the Prado's.

Regards, Jason.

[MalcomM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MalcomM]

Hi Malcom.

The stiffer Swaybars will limit the wheel travel offroad unfortunately.
As Glen showed with his , you can gain a bit more wheel travel by disconnecting the swaybars altogether.
There are a few nice swaybar disconnect kits on the market for the Jeeps, but i am yet to see one for the Prado's.

Regards, Jason.

Gotcha, hadn't considered off road wheel travel . I keep thinking its a car

What bushes do you guys recommend for the sway bar ties? I've just had some Nolethane ones disintegrate after 4 months so looking for alternatives.

cheers
Malcom

[wholesalesuspension Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close wholesalesuspension]

Gotcha, hadn't considered off road wheel travel . I keep thinking its a car

What bushes do you guys recommend for the sway bar ties? I've just had some Nolethane ones disintegrate after 4 months so looking for alternatives.

cheers
Malcom

Hi Malcom, we use Superpro bushes.
Part No's: SPF2755SK for the front & SPF2092B for the back.
They are a Blue Polyurethane bush & are self lubricating. They are a good thing.
We fitted them to our resident Prado 2 weeks ago when we did the lift.
I am trying to get all the pics together & post up a full write up on it soonish within the next week or so.

Regards, Jason.

[MalcomM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MalcomM]

Many thanks Jason

[glen_ep Addicted PP Member Find all posts View Profile Close glen_ep]

I have since replaced my sway bay links with 30mm extended ones, and it made a difference to cornering and stability.

[MalcomM Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MalcomM]

I have since replaced my sway bay links with 30mm extended ones, and it made a difference to cornering and stability.

A good or bad difference
What does 30mm extended mean, are the bars longer than normal?
Is that cornering/stability on the black top or dirt?

[croozza Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close croozza]

Yes the link pin is 30mm longer. The link pin is the part that connects to a bracket that comes off the chassis rail, and connects to the sway bar link (the flatter bit on the end of the sway bar with a hole in it).