Minimum Vehicle Preperation Requirements

[Snaga Wishing I was lost Find all posts View Profile Close Snaga]

Good stuff Matt... all sensible stuff and really, people shouldn't even be doing local trips without most of these things.

My to do list... get (and fit) a fire extinguisher!! I've been saying 'I should get one of those' for too long now.
Oh, and you think with a GP for a wife I could get a half decent first aid kit made up rather than the pathetic excuse for a first aid kit I carry now :roll:

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6) Samo and I use a receiver mounted rear recovery point as well, but some people don't like them and that is just a personal preference. Once again, if the front points are not fitted.. no day trips.

Can we add rear-recovery points to the list if a recovery hitch isn't an option please?? ... i.e. some form of rear recovery as a minimum as well as frontal recovery.

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Great to see things are rolling along,the GTG will be upon us in no time .Keep up the good work.
Quicky

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and just to add some comments about the rear towbar hitch, i have seen a 95 series get a bogged to the diffs 80 series out of what i would call near quicksand using a towbar mounted receiver via 3 snatch straps, if that aint strong enough i dont know what is? i can get video to support my comments, i have also done many a safe and sucessful recovery using simple rules, keep ya distance, keep it rated. cheers samo

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6) Front recovery points fitted to the chassis. These are about $120 and you can get them fitted at any Opposite Lock, TJM or ARB workshop. See this thread for info (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1898&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=80). Samo and I use a receiver mounted rear recovery point as well, but some people don't like them and that is just a personal preference. Once again, if the front points are not fitted.. no day trips.

So following this link recovery points built into the ARB winch bar would be acceptable or would there be the requirement to fit another set to the front?
Thanks for all your trouble in running the site

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all minimum requirements for this trip r best fowarded to matt via pm. cheers samo

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If ARB are rating them as snatch points (check with them), then I am fine with those as snatch points. If not, you shall need ones as noted above.

FYI neither are rated. Just because the Outback Ideas points have a sticker on them doesn't mean they're rated. If in doubt ask John how he rates his recovery points. Personally if it won't come out after 2-3 snatches it's time to break out the winch or another safer method of recovery.

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Personally if it won't come out after 2-3 snatches it's time to break out the winch or another safer method of recovery.

MAXTRAX first, tow with MAXTRAX 2nd, snatch with MAXTRAX 3rd, two-engine ganged-pull 4th, tractor 5th, leave it to the environment 6th

LFaR.

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If ARB are rating them as snatch points (check with them), then I am fine with those as snatch points. If not, you shall need ones as noted above.

Cheers,

Thanks Matt will check with ARB, I am sure any additional points will be a lot deared then $120 here due to lack of competition :roll:

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Sorry to take it off topic and into a 'what's what of recover options'...

I was just requesting that 'Rear recovery points' (something more than the transit hooks... what ever it may be, hooks... hitch etc...) be added to the list as there's just as much chance someone will need recovering from the back end as from the front... isn't there :?

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just take a shovel and harden up ya sissies

Sorry seriously i am at ARB on wednesday for a snorkle so i will ask about the recovery loops on their bar however i feel that D4D is right both options are only so called rated through an enginering assumption that it is either bolted direct to the chassis or an intergral part of a bar bolted direct to the chassis i do not believe that neither have been tested to destruction so while both methods are far far better than the standard transport hooks it would be hair splitting to seperate the 2

I think the fire extinguisher is a top idea plus the servicing with a coolant change cause if the cooling system is not top notch stockton will soon let you know if there has been no rain and the sand is powder soft

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Hi Matt

Have you looked under the 150 series yet, they have two points front and rear that the manual states asre recovery points, they are bolted into the chassis the same as the aftermarket recovery points. Interested in your comments.

Regards, Richard.

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Tried ARB here in Perth. They do not do recovery points as they are worried about legality of rating them

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OK been in contact with ARB here melbourne

Recovery points on ARB bar is a towing / winching point only and are not rated for a dynamic load (i,e snatching)

After some further discussions whilst yes there are other options, as D4D stated the ratings system is a bit ambigious meaning has it been rated to a static or dynamic load (my contact had doubts over dynamic load ratings due to variables in play i.e angle of recovery, spring in snatch strap etc etc)

I am not starting an argument and am happy to have the outback ideas style product fitted for the trip just making people aware from the discussions i had it appears that due to the amount of variables involed in recoveries and todays litigious environment whilt the word recovery point will be used the word rated will probably become less common if not be removed all together

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OK been in contact with ARB here melbourne

Recovery points on ARB bar is a towing / winching point only and are not rated for a dynamic load (i,e snatching)

After some further discussions whilst yes there are other options, as D4D stated the ratings system is a bit ambigious meaning has it been rated to a static or dynamic load (my contact had doubts over dynamic load ratings due to variables in play i.e angle of recovery, spring in snatch strap etc etc)

I am not starting an argument and am happy to have the outback ideas style product fitted for the trip just making people aware from the discussions i had it appears that due to the amount of variables involed in recoveries and todays litigious environment whilt the word recovery point will be used the word rated will probably become less common if not be removed all together

....Need to be careful which points we are discussng here too.

The ARB bar has 'eyelets' on the front, which I am told are suitable for towing, but my understanding is that the points under the bar (sitting very close to the OME loops) are rated for recovery.

I have an earlier ARB bar (04), wich came without the recovery points and I had them retro fitted by ARB a cople of years later, with the sole intention of them being a rated recovery point, (which at the time ARB told me they were).