Sa gtg 2012 from the outback to the ocean

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

I hear a rumour that the website might be up and running before the day is over!!!!!

Cheers Andrew

[letsgoplaces Advanced Member Find all posts View Profile Close letsgoplaces]

Yes a rear locker is a minimum requirement for White 90 series Prados from SA, everyone else should be right without the locker though

Cheers Andrew

Woo hoo.... now, do you think she'll buy it

[4wd Supplies Member Find all posts View Profile Close 4wd Supplies]

This sounds like a great trip guy's, I will keep reading with envy.

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

Well I have filled out the registation form, hopefully I made the cut, would be a shame to miss out on this one

Just one for people to look at on the website, go to Itinerary and follow the link to the Transit leg and the Border Track, have a look at the attched video of a Hilux heading up a dune on the Border Track.
I kid you not, that is one of the chicken tracks!!

See ya at the GTG in SA

Cheers Andrew

[iantz Avid PP Poster! Find all posts View Profile Close iantz]

Well I have filled out the registation form, hopefully I made the cut, would be a shame to miss out on this one

Regarding this: The committee needs to meet again to discuss your application AJ. Trish and DJ are definitely in, it's just whether or not we allow you to show up given how much trouble you are. I guess it will all depend on how many scrub bars and side steps you wish to donate to committee members.... This will probably be the deciding factor.

On another note, if you youtube Border Track, there are many, many more vids of the mud holes etc. I chose a few of the tame ones so as not to scare you all off!

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Iantz trust me AJ will be there. I've seen him in action not fixing his problems just everyone elses. If Trish kicks you out you can drive mine that means I can maintain more "hydration" if you know what I mean.

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[A10 Member Find all posts View Profile Close A10]

What are the options for towing a trailer on section 2 without a winch?

Not questioning the requirement, just trying to assess the options and the justification for getting a winch.

[MidLifeCrisis Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close MidLifeCrisis]

What are the options for towing a trailer on section 2 without a winch?

Not questioning the requirement, just trying to assess the options and the justification for getting a winch.

Please present this post to SWMBO as an official requirement that you fit a winch. If she does not understand then explain this post is like a doctors certificate and means she must comply.

Officially unofficially on behalf of the GTG2012 committee.

mlc - unauthorised representative

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

What are the options for towing a trailer on section 2 without a winch?

Not questioning the requirement, just trying to assess the options and the justification for getting a winch.

Hi Graeme, ignore MLC and listen to me. When we transit through Ngarkat; at this stage we are planning 2 options, one all the way along the Border Track, and second down the centre track and then onto the border track. Both tracks are similar only the dunes on the first section of the border track are much larger. when I refer to the Border track from now on I am refering to the one way section at the start that those doing the centre track will miss.

The likely scenario for trailers on the first section of the border track is that they will almost certainly not make it, therefore recoveries are almost a given, snatching is going to be problematic at best, maxtrax are always an option but we made a winch mandatory as that may be the safest and most practical way, but it all depends on the circumstances on the day.

Having a winch doesn't gaurantee you will be able to do the border track with a trailer, for example, a person with a 1kz manual would be wasting their time even trying, you are going to need horsepower as well, you are also going to need to be willing to use all the horsepower you have. Likewise if your camper trailer is really heavy, such as a Kimberly, we would suggest that you take the centre track as you don't stand a chance of getting over the dunes. And of course the logistics say that we simply cant take 20 or 30 vehicles with campers down the Border Track if every one of those needs to be recovered; possibly on more than one occasion.

So to sum up, for a trailer down the Border Track section a winch is mandatory, you will also require a D4D or V6, or possibly a 1kz with chip and exhaust running a high tune, a modestly weighted camper trailer, experience towing over dunes, confidence in your ability in sand and dunes, a wiilingness to wring the neck out of your Prado, and be fit enough to do some serious digging if things go really pear shaped and you bury yourself big time.

The centre track will still provide good fun for those with all of the above, it may still provide a challenge for those with low power and experience, but by all means use it as an excuse to fit a winch. We expect the majority of people with CT's to take the centre track option.

Hope that helps.

Cheers Andrew

[MidLifeCrisis Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close MidLifeCrisis]

That's what I said! Where is Trish when you need her?

[MrsAJ120 Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrsAJ120]

If Trish kicks you out you can drive mine that means I can maintain more "hydration" if you know what I mean.

Awesome!! Can we say that's a given?? I've been trying to work out how to get to do more of the driving ... this is the perfect solution ... it's win-win!

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That's what I said! Where is Trish when you need her?

Eh??? Not following...

[A10 Member Find all posts View Profile Close A10]

Thanks Andrew.

Doesn't everyone ignore MLC?

To sum up, if we are towing a camper trailer and don't have a winch, we can still do the center track and the bottom part of the border track.

Graham

[AJ120 Out of control poster! Find all posts View Profile Close AJ120]

Thanks Andrew.

Doesn't everyone ignore MLC?

To sum up, if we are towing a camper trailer and don't have a winch, we can still do the center track and the bottom part of the border track.

Graham

Correct on both counts

Cheers Andrew

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Trish, AJ was waffling again. I hope you are monitoring his internet usage.